Bump4life Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 you do not need a dedicated digital processor for sq that is just plain wrong!!! it just makes life so much easier quality speakers is a loaded statement who defines what quality is? you need a good wide frequency response with out break up from a speaker that's all in the specs. My wifes car has less the 200 paid for all her mids and highs and after hours of tunning and on the RTA i will put it against 90% of all the vehicles on this site. I'm going to leave now thinking of all the wrong in this thread is making my head hurt without a processor how do you deal with time alignment, phase issues, crossover points, etc? Buyer/Seller Feedback Thread: http://www.stevemead...5015-bump4life/ MB C220 153 Trunk Car Build Log: http://www.stevemead...d/#entry1840136 MB C280 Ipad Dash SQ Build Log: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/194484-bump4lifes-new-benz-tony-c-relay-kit-pictures-ce-electric-audison-front-stage-installed/ My SPL Log: http://www.stevemead...__fromsearch__1 BMW M340 xDrive Stock, for now. Corner Load 10" maybe soon. But does 10s in the 1/4... Best Scores out of a trunk 153.0 sealed legal full tilt clamped 5524 @ 42 hz 154+ windows down, 155+ kick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soccerballzs Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 Love my P99RS Here great unit plus Midwoofer output also http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/garage/vehicle/2438-jeep-commander/I Pioneer P99RSAmpere 38002-Ampere 125/44-6.5 inch Hertz HSK XL Mids4-8 inch JL Audio ZR Midwoofer 2-5.25 Satori Mids2-Morel Tweeters, 2 Hertz Milles 3 inch on A pillars2-Hertz Silk tweeters DC Audio Level 5/12 Skyhigh Wire Mechman 320 XS Power D3100MO Funniest Thread of the Year 2013: http://www.stevemead...dy-being-a-pos/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krakin Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 you do not need a dedicated digital processor for sq that is just plain wrong!!! it just makes life so much easier quality speakers is a loaded statement who defines what quality is? you need a good wide frequency response with out break up from a speaker that's all in the specs. My wifes car has less the 200 paid for all her mids and highs and after hours of tunning and on the RTA i will put it against 90% of all the vehicles on this site. I'm going to leave now thinking of all the wrong in this thread is making my head hurt without a processor how do you deal with time alignment, phase issues, crossover points, etc? Time alignment, cable length. Phase issues, circuit in total. Corssover, just build one. Krakin's Home Dipole Project http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/186153-krakins-dipole-project-new-reciever-in-rockford-science/#entry2772370 Krakin, are you some sort of mad scientist? I would have replied earlier, but I was measuring the output of my amp with a yardstick . . . What you hear is not the air pressure variation in itself but what has drawn your attention in the two streams of superimposed air pressure variations at your eardrums An acoustic event has dimensions of Time, Tone, Loudness and Space Everyone learns to render the 3-dimensional localization of sound based on the individual shape of their ears, thus no formula can achieve a definite effect for every listener. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockFord_Expedition Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 Im running the Kenwood Exelon DNX9980HD with no problems whatsoever. Randal are you running anything between the HU and your amps? Old School/New School RF Build March 2015 SOTM Winner How to crimp large wire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bump4life Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 you do not need a dedicated digital processor for sq that is just plain wrong!!! it just makes life so much easier quality speakers is a loaded statement who defines what quality is? you need a good wide frequency response with out break up from a speaker that's all in the specs. My wifes car has less the 200 paid for all her mids and highs and after hours of tunning and on the RTA i will put it against 90% of all the vehicles on this site. I'm going to leave now thinking of all the wrong in this thread is making my head hurt without a processor how do you deal with time alignment, phase issues, crossover points, etc? Time alignment, cable length. Phase issues, circuit in total. Corssover, just build one. so run a passive system is pretty much what you are saying. and to build a high quality passive crossover with 12db per octave for 200 watts can get pretty expensive. i built a pair for 150. my processor can cross up to 48 db/octave. and you are really going to make your speaker wire longer than it has to be? doesnt make sense in any manor really. Buyer/Seller Feedback Thread: http://www.stevemead...5015-bump4life/ MB C220 153 Trunk Car Build Log: http://www.stevemead...d/#entry1840136 MB C280 Ipad Dash SQ Build Log: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/194484-bump4lifes-new-benz-tony-c-relay-kit-pictures-ce-electric-audison-front-stage-installed/ My SPL Log: http://www.stevemead...__fromsearch__1 BMW M340 xDrive Stock, for now. Corner Load 10" maybe soon. But does 10s in the 1/4... Best Scores out of a trunk 153.0 sealed legal full tilt clamped 5524 @ 42 hz 154+ windows down, 155+ kick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krakin Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 It doesn't matter if it makes sense, that's how it used to be done. Yes a DSP either in your HU or a separate one make things so much unbelievably easier, cheaper and some even better. That is just how you would do it without one. Krakin's Home Dipole Project http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/186153-krakins-dipole-project-new-reciever-in-rockford-science/#entry2772370 Krakin, are you some sort of mad scientist? I would have replied earlier, but I was measuring the output of my amp with a yardstick . . . What you hear is not the air pressure variation in itself but what has drawn your attention in the two streams of superimposed air pressure variations at your eardrums An acoustic event has dimensions of Time, Tone, Loudness and Space Everyone learns to render the 3-dimensional localization of sound based on the individual shape of their ears, thus no formula can achieve a definite effect for every listener. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALPINE408 Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 you do not need a dedicated digital processor for sq that is just plain wrong!!! it just makes life so much easier quality speakers is a loaded statement who defines what quality is? you need a good wide frequency response with out break up from a speaker that's all in the specs. My wifes car has less the 200 paid for all her mids and highs and after hours of tunning and on the RTA i will put it against 90% of all the vehicles on this site. I'm going to leave now thinking of all the wrong in this thread is making my head hurt without a processor how do you deal with time alignment, phase issues, crossover points, etc? lol the same way they did it before DSP were available. to think that sq has only been around as long as DSP is funny you can do everything via ANALOG time alignment would be controlled by channel gains and balance crossover points gee i dunno maybe with a cross over there have almost allways been Equalizers to dial in the frequencies if you like to 180 phase out your mids lets say you just put the negative on the postive post of the speaker and postive on the neg bam! your 180 phase is done any other questions? Have you ever had your woofers blown? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Lightning Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 Im running the Kenwood Exelon DNX9980HD with no problems whatsoever.Randal are you running anything between the HU and your amps?I have a LP XO2 on my midbass drivers to cut off the top end around 240 htz, but other than that ... NoHead unit takes care of everything else. Kenwood / HELIX / Linear Power (For The Love Of Music) / Brutal Sounds / OverKill Electric Co Questions About Sound Quality ?? Try Here ... Sound Quality, What does it REALLY mean ?? SMD SOTM Winner "White Lightning" 1997 GMT400 Chevy Silverado "The Green Dickle" 1994 GMT400 Chevy "Phantom Dually" Randal's 2007 Chevy Avalanche (we haven't named this one yet) Dylan's "Brutal" 17 Chevy Cruze RS Hatch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALPINE408 Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 the amount of extra speaker wire for the delay and the testing to get it right would drive me nuts the channel gain and balance will give you a great illusion of T/A Have you ever had your woofers blown? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krakin Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 I sometimes get stuck back in the home audio world were there would already be massive amounts of wire used so it would be easier to do that than build an analog circuit for it. Krakin's Home Dipole Project http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/186153-krakins-dipole-project-new-reciever-in-rockford-science/#entry2772370 Krakin, are you some sort of mad scientist? I would have replied earlier, but I was measuring the output of my amp with a yardstick . . . What you hear is not the air pressure variation in itself but what has drawn your attention in the two streams of superimposed air pressure variations at your eardrums An acoustic event has dimensions of Time, Tone, Loudness and Space Everyone learns to render the 3-dimensional localization of sound based on the individual shape of their ears, thus no formula can achieve a definite effect for every listener. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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