Ordering recones today. What imp?

[Team_DC-Derrick]

2 Sundown amps, depending on the RMS of your subs, will match up perfectly, or even 2 rockford amps.. all depends on your subs

[CaptainzPlanetz]

Impendence rise shouldnt be factored into your decision unless you are doing burps at a specific Hz, as it changes with Frequency. What will determine if you can run your amps at .5 ohms is your electrical to back up the amp, and of course if your amps can handle a .5 ohm load.

So if your planning on running your amps at .5 then make sure you have the electrical to keep them happy.

Edited September 28, 2009 by CaptainzPlanetz

[n8ball2013]

are you a DD dealer? Pretty sure they dont sell recones to the general public.

[audiofanaticz]

are you a DD dealer? Pretty sure they dont sell recones to the general public.

DD will sell you recones as long as you can provide proof you have a dd product needing the recone. This all happened with Konaki subs being sold on ebay and the 9500series recones fitting the cheap subs. There is no DD Dealer in his area...

Tho he has 3500D series subs, and well that recone dont really fit much because of their gap, width, and length.

As for what impedance coils you should get... That is up too you. You should really figure out what you plan to do with your amp situation. Either the single 1200watt amp you currently have, 2 of those amps, or one giant amp. It be wise to make up your decision right now.

Yes, you can get 2 amps and run them at 2 ohms like you have said. But if your a true basshead, after a few weeks you will get sick of it and will want it louder. Thus needing to get a 1 big amp that will do 5-6krms and cost alot and not get full use out of it running it at 2 ohms (that is if you go with dual 1 ohm recones). This said amp will cost a pretty penny(around $1000 depending on brand).

Your almost better off buying new recones again to bring down your current amps down to 1 ohm nominal (if you get a 2nd matching amp). This will be much cheaper.

IMO I think Dual 1.5 ohm coils are the best all around. This helps fight impedance rise. Since you can run 1 sub with 1 amp at .75 ohms, or 2 subs on 2 amps strapped at 1.5 ohms, or 2 subs on 1 amp at .37 (great for burps only), or 2 subs on 1 amp at 1.5 ohm (which isnt a 1 ohm load, but it would give you more power then running at 2 ohms if you went with 2 subs that are dual 2 ohms).

As for different sized baskets in the pm I got from you. I cant disclose prices online. I am not your dealer unffortunatly unless you come to me. I cant tell DD what to price to sell your gear at. Tho I know when I upgraded from a 12 to a 18 and a 15 to a 18 I got a nice deal, tho this is manly because I dropped lots of money on my gear I got from them. So they try to help out if they can to their loyal customers.

Edited September 29, 2009 by Bangin Caddy

[Hunters21w]

I didnt realize that DD could build a d1.5. thats def somethin to think about.

You dont think that the recones will fit the 3500d's?

How much do you think I could push these subs without pushin them TOOO hard? In your opinion.

lol, well would it be worth it to come out there? =)

[audiofanaticz]

I didnt realize that DD could build a d1.5. thats def somethin to think about.

Yea, I believe it even says said impedances on their site.

you can get dual 0.5, 0.7, 1.0, and 1.5

But if its not dual 2 or dual 4 ohm coils they charge extra for those impedance.

You dont think that the recones will fit the 3500d's?

I did not really say that. The 9500 series recones work in other brand subs, wear as the 3500 series recones do not work in other brand woofers is what I was meaning.

How much do you think I could push these subs without pushin them TOOO hard? In your opinion.

lol, well would it be worth it to come out there? =)

My old setup from 6 or 7 years ago was 2 dd 3515s in a 12.6 cubed box tuned to 40 hz with a audiobahn hct2300 on each sub. It claimed 2400wrms @ 1 ohm or pure dirrrrrty power. So if your box is built correct I dont see why you cant put a clean 2000-2500ish wrms per sub.

Not for a pair of recones and a baskets. We dont stock much on hand from how shitty the econemy is. So you would have to drive here, place your order and pay, then come back when it arrives. Sounds like a bunch of running around and wasting gas for nothing. We charge MSRP for recones and such. Now if your wanting to buy a complete system brand new from me I can give you lots of good deals.

[Hunters21w]

Yea thats why I'm thinkin about stickin with the d2s.

Dang 12 cubes, I wish I could fit that in my trunk. I have close to 8 so I'm hopin it will sound good.

I understand about the recones n baskets. How about any deals on an amp that can run .5 or 2? I'd make the drive if it was worth it.

[audiofanaticz]

Yea thats why I'm thinkin about stickin with the d2s.

Dang 12 cubes, I wish I could fit that in my trunk. I have close to 8 so I'm hopin it will sound good.

I understand about the recones n baskets. How about any deals on an amp that can run .5 or 2? I'd make the drive if it was worth it.

No amps are warrantied at .5

Its stupid to run at .5 ohms or lower for daily applications. Many people say they run them at said ohm, but they never factor in impedance rise. As well as you have impedance rise at some frequancys, but at other frequancys it may drop well below .5 ohms, That could result in instantly frying the amp.

And your still not factoring in the needed extra battery power to run the amps at that ohm load. Id figure you would need a nice strong alternator, and 2 if not 3 big batteries if you want to play it safe. Ruffly $250-$350 per battery, and a good $400 alternator, just to safely run your amp at .5 ohm

Your not going to see much extra power running your amps at .5 ohms in a daily used musical system after you factor in the heat, the loss of effiecncy, the bigger current draw needed to make power.

And to buy a monster 1ohm stable amp to run it 2 ohms is going to be so costly its not funny because your not using it to its max potential.

From your amp(s) running hotter makes them less effiecent. Over time the extra heat can damage or weaken your mosfets making them never carry the rated current low the mosfets are rated for. You have a higher chance of frying your amp(s)

Lets look at the new Sundown SAZ-4500D for instance.

It does 4500wrms @ 1 ohm with 13.8volts I believe.

It costs $1200 brand new. The presale cost is 14% cheaper. So $1368 once the amp is released and presale is over.

Now you want to run this amp at 2 ohms which is 2000wrms @ 2 ohms. Your paying $1368 for a 2000wrms amp.... Is that really worth it?

Considering you can go out and buy 2 brand new sundown SAZ-2000D that will each do 2000wrms @ 1 ohm for $1230. So your getting double the RMS wattage from 2 amps at 1 ohm for less money.

Two DD3500 series subs will laugh at 2000watts rms (which would be 1000wrms each). So your going to need to buy a good 6000wrms or 7000wrms @ 1 ohm amp to get decent power from it at 2 ohms to happily power 2 3500 series subs. Its not worth it.

As for your JBL 1200.1 amp. It does 1200wrms at 1 or 2 ohm. Most amps dont do the same power ratings at 1 and 2 ohm, except the apline pdx lines. Im sure theres a few others but dont know them off the top of my head.

[cthedinger]

isnt the ap3000, 3000 watts at 2 ohm? and you can get those new for under 300

[audiofanaticz]

I strongly say to think about what amp(s) you will be using before buying subs or recones. Or buy your recones that will work with your amp for now, and once you buy a new amp to buy new recones AGAIN to get the most out of your amp.