FEMA Camps in US??

[huh?do-what?]

alex jones is a douchebag. He claims to open peoples eyes. How much money is he making by doing this? REX84 program was instituted during a time when the US Gov worried that the Mexican Gov was going to collapse.(thats the way i understood it.) Jones knows he can make a killing by scaring the shit out of people who know nothing of this kind of thing. I used to spend time on Prisonplanet.com but I decided i could never get back the brain cells that were killed by reading that garbage. Jones ran a story last year about some people who were hiking and wandered up on some train tracks. These railcars they saw supposedly had shackles connected to the cars wall. Bullshit. They also claimed there were mobile guillotines. Get the fuck out of here. Guillotines in a train car? Then theres the moron idea that the WTCtowers were built with thermite in the floors so they could blast them 30 years later to initiate a war on Islam and the rest of the world. They run with the idea that if something sounds possible, it must be very likely. Not a good way to think.

[Team_DC-Derrick]

I will add to this simply by saying....OBAMA IS THE DEVIL!!(done in his best bobby bouche momma voice)

yes because bush was such a great president....

i know you are prob joking around... but you cant blame some one who runs the country now for how fucked up it is... you blame the person who started the fuck up...

Honestly, I dont really believe all the crazy shit on wiki.. anyone can change it.. I can go in and make a article talking about jesus's life and claim he was gay.. or that he hated the white man.. or whatever... and im sure somewhere down the road some one would believe it.

[suicideking602]

I used to be deep in this stupid shit about two years ago, then i realized that all the time i was putting towards following this stuff, i could of been living my life to the fullest. Nobody really knows whats really going on, other than the Elite. And yes OUR president since the beginning of time has been a puppet to the Elite. Come on people... FEMA camps in U.S... Really... I know what your talking about (REX 84 and Operation Garden plot), DO YOU REALLY THINK OUR KIDS, GRANDKIDS and SO ON (military families) Would turn their backs on their own flesh and blood! REALLY?

[TeamHT]

I used to be deep in this stupid shit about two years ago, then i realized that all the time i was putting towards following this stuff, i could of been living my life to the fullest. Nobody really knows whats really going on, other than the Elite. And yes OUR president since the beginning of time has been a puppet to the Elite. Come on people... FEMA camps in U.S... Really... I know what your talking about (REX 84 and Operation Garden plot), DO YOU REALLY THINK OUR KIDS, GRANDKIDS and SO ON (military families) Would turn their backs on their own flesh and blood! REALLY?

yes

[Mr. Darkjustice]

yes because bush was such a great president....

i know you are prob joking around... but you cant blame some one who runs the country now for how fucked up it is... you blame the person who started the fuck up...

Honestly, I dont really believe all the crazy shit on wiki.. anyone can change it.. I can go in and make a article talking about jesus's life and claim he was gay.. or that he hated the white man.. or whatever... and im sure somewhere down the road some one would believe it.

honestly i think thats part of why obama won. so he could be blamed for all this shit. just like the people that blame him for the oil spills

[Mr. Darkjustice]

I used to be deep in this stupid shit about two years ago, then i realized that all the time i was putting towards following this stuff, i could of been living my life to the fullest. Nobody really knows whats really going on, other than the Elite. And yes OUR president since the beginning of time has been a puppet to the Elite. Come on people... FEMA camps in U.S... Really... I know what your talking about (REX 84 and Operation Garden plot), DO YOU REALLY THINK OUR KIDS, GRANDKIDS and SO ON (military families) Would turn their backs on their own flesh and blood! REALLY?

American Revolutionary War. civil war. true stories. theres people now that would sell their own mothers to get ahead in life

[Colin - STAPUFT]

Not saying that it IS going on here in the United States, but....

Everyone needs to brush up on their Pre-WWII history. Look at exactly how Hitler came to power and how he took hold of Germany and most of Europe. It didn't happen overnight, and while it was happening- the "wackos" were called wackos and were silenced. "This" stuff did, can and does happen. What makes anyone think it couldn't happen here in these United States??

If you want, read this article below. Not trying to change the thread or thread jack or any of that- just felt it was relative to the thread:

David Kaiser is a respected historian whose published works have

covered a broad range of topics, from European Warfare to American

League Baseball. Born in 1947, the son of a diplomat, Kaiser spent his

childhood in three capital cities: Washington D.C. , Albany , New York

, and Dakar , Senegal . He attended Harvard University , graduating

there in 1969 with a B.A. in history. He then spent several years more

at Harvard, gaining a PhD in history, which he obtained in 1976. He

served in the Army Reserve from 1970 to 1976.

He is a professor in the Strategy and Policy Department of the United

States Naval War College. He has previously taught at Carnegie Mellon,

Williams College and Harvard University . Kaiser's latest book, The

Road to Dallas, about the Kennedy assassination, was just published by

Harvard University Press.

Dr. David Kaiser

History Unfolding

I am a student of history. Professionally, I have written 15 books on

history that have been published in six languages, and I have studied

history all my life. I have come to think there is something

monumentally large afoot, and I do not believe it is simply a banking

crisis, or a mortgage crisis, or a credit crisis. Yes these exist, but

they are merely single facets on a very large gemstone that is only now

coming into a sharper focus.

Something of historic proportions is happening. I can sense it because

I know how it feels, smells, what it looks like, and how people react

to it. Yes, a perfect storm may be brewing, but there is something

happening within our country that has been evolving for about ten to

fifteen years.. The pace has dramatically quickened in the past two.

We demand and then codify into law the requirement that our banks make

massive loans to people we know they can never pay back? Why?

We learned just days ago that the Federal Reserve, which has little or

no real oversight by anyone, has "loaned" two trillion dollars (that is

$2,000,000,000,000) over the past few months, but will not tell us to

whom or why or disclose the terms. That is our money. Yours and mine.

And that is three times the $700 billion we all argued about so

strenuously just this past September. Who has this money? Why do they

have it? Why are the terms unavailable to us? Who asked for it? Who

authorized it? I thought this was a government of "we the people," who

loaned our powers to our elected leaders. Apparently not.

We have spent two or more decades intentionally de-industrializing our

economy.. Why?

We have intentionally dumbed down our schools, ignored our history, and

no longer teach our founding documents, why we are exceptional, and why

we are worth preserving. Students by and large cannot write, think

critically, read, or articulate. Parents are not revolting, teachers

are not picketing, school boards continue to back mediocrity.. Why?

We have now established the precedent of protesting every close

election (violently in California over a proposition that is so

controversial that it simply wants marriage to remain defined as

between one man and one woman. Did you ever think such a thing possible

just a decade ago?) We have corrupted our sacred political process by

allowing unelected judges to write laws that radically change our way

of life, and then mainstream Marxist groups like ACORN and others to

turn our voting system into a banana republic. To what purpose?

Now our mortgage industry is collapsing, housing prices are in free

fall, major industries are failing, our banking system is on the verge

of collapse, social security is nearly bankrupt, as is Medicare and our

entire government. Our education system is worse than a joke (I teach

college and I know precisely what I am talking about) - the list is

staggering in its length, breadth, and depth. It is potentially 1929 x

ten...and we are at war with an enemy we cannot even name for fear of

offending people of the same religion, who, in turn, cannot wait to

slit the throats of your children if they have the opportunity to do so.

And finally, we have elected a man that no one really knows anything

about, who has never run so much as a Dairy Queen, let alone a town as

big as Wasilla , Alaska .. All of his associations and alliances are

with real radicals in their chosen fields of employment, and everything

we learn about him, drip by drip, is unsettling if not downright

scary (Surely you have heard him speak about his idea to create and

fund a mandatory civilian defense force stronger than our military for

use inside our borders? No? Oh, of course. The media would never play

that for you over and over and then demand he answer it. Sarah Palin's

pregnant daughter and $150,000 wardrobe are more important.)

Mr. Obama's winning platform can be boiled down to one word:

CHANGE. Why?

I have never been so afraid for my country and for my children as I am

now.

This man campaigned on bringing people together, something he has

never, ever done in his professional life. In my assessment, Obama

will divide us along philosophical lines, push us apart, and then try

to realign the pieces into a new and different power structure. Change

is indeed coming. And when it comes, you will never see the same

nation again.

And that is only the beginning..

As a serious student of history, I thought I would never come to

experience what the ordinary, moral German must have felt in the

mid-1930s. In those times, the "savior" was a former smooth-talking

rabble-rouser from the streets, about whom the average German knew next

to nothing. What they should have known was that he was associated with

groups that shouted, shoved, and pushed around people with whom they

disagreed; he edged his way onto the political stage through great

oratory. Conservative "losers" read it right now.

And there were the promises. Economic times were tough, people were

losing jobs, and he was a great speaker. And he smiled and frowned and

waved a lot. And people, even newspapers, were afraid to speak out for

fear that his "brown shirts" would bully and beat them into submission.

Which they did - regularly. And then, he was duly elected to office,

while a full-throttled economic crisis bloomed at hand - the Great

Depression. Slowly, but surely he seized the controls of government

power, person by person, department by department, bureaucracy by

bureaucracy. The children of German citizens were at first, encouraged

to join a Youth Movement in his name where they were taught exactly

what to think. Later, they were required to do so. No Jews of course,

How did he get people on his side? He did it by promising jobs to the

jobless, money to the money-less, and rewards for the

military-industrial complex.. He did it by indoctrinating the children,

advocating gun control, health care for all, better wages, better jobs,

and promising to re-instill pride once again in the country,

across Europe, and across the world. He did it with a compliant media -

did you know that? And he did this all in the name of justice and . .

.CHANGE And the people surely got what they voted for.

If you think I am exaggerating, look it up. It's all there in the

history books.

So read your history books. Many people of conscience objected in 1933

and were shouted down, called names, laughed at, and ridiculed.

When Winston Churchill pointed out the obvious in the late 1930s while

seated in the House of Lords in England (he was not yet Prime

Minister), he was booed into his seat and called a crazy troublemaker.

He was right, though. And the world came to regret that he was not

listened to.

Do not forget that Germany was the most educated, the most cultured

country in Europe . It was full of music, art, museums, hospitals,

laboratories, and universities. And yet, in less than six years (a

shorter time span than just two terms of the U. S. presidency) it was

rounding up its own citizens, killing others, abrogating its laws,

turning children against parents, and neighbors against neighbors. All

with the best of intentions, of course. The road to Hell is paved with

them.

As a practical thinker, one not overly prone to emotional decisions, I

have a choice: I can either believe what the objective pieces of

evidence tell me (even if they make me cringe with disgust); I can

believe what history is shouting to me from across the chasm of seven

decades; or I can hope I am wrong by closing my eyes, having another

latte, and ignoring what is transpiring around me..

I choose to believe the evidence. No doubt some people will scoff at

me, others laugh, or think I am foolish, naive, or both. To some

degree, perhaps I am. But I have never been afraid to look people in

the eye and tell them exactly what I believe-and why I believe it.

I pray I am wrong. I do not think I am. Perhaps the only hope is our

vote in the next elections.

David Kaiser

Jamestown , Rhode Island

United States