are square subs overrated?

[LoudNLow931]

Had it in my signature for ever, I stold it from noobtastic, he deserves all the credit!

I was wondering who that was who said it

[ben29555]

Its all in the owners opinion.. I had 2 L7 8's and was geting low 140's but the SQ wassnt that good. Never delt much with anything larger other that a friend was running 2 18" solo x's in his van and it done great numbers low 170's but he went to DD 9515's and went up 3 dbs.. So its all in what your after SPL or SQ .. "My Opinion Only"

for real?

[chewie]

the kicker l7s only sound louder because they sound like garbage.. too many newbs associate distortion with loudness (because it sounds louder)

[Mosin]

the kicker l7s only sound louder because they sound like garbage.. too many newbs associate distortion with loudness (because it sounds louder)

So Kicker L7's don't get loud or sound good right? And only 'newbs' run the Kicker L7 right?

Even though the Kicker square's have been winning SQ awards since there conception as stated by Polecat.

[chewie]

im sorry buddy but EVERY l7 setup ive heard sounded like GARBAGE!!!!! sure it got loud. but it didnt sound very well.

and no .. im saying newbs confuse distortion with loudness. every highscoolers system ive seen had the gain and frequency cranked and sounded like garbage. but it was loud to them.. i reset their amps. and it sounded clean and they are like its not as loud now.. (not l7 specific)

[Maxim]

Its all in the owners opinion.. I had 2 L7 8's and was geting low 140's but the SQ wassnt that good. Never delt much with anything larger other that a friend was running 2 18" solo x's in his van and it done great numbers low 170's but he went to DD 9515's and went up 3 dbs.. So its all in what your after SPL or SQ .. "My Opinion Only"

[bmongo18]

You have 2 subs in a 12 cube ported box? I'm hoping they're the 15" subs. And I'm hoping you know what you're doing. That's a big-ass box for those two subs.

Anyway, I'd stray away from square subs. Other than looks, I've seen no real reason for them to be square. The difference in cone area is negligible, but the difference in SQ will be noticeable, so stick with the round woofers.

Yeah they are 15's and the only reason why got them cuz them 250 for the pair but they beat

[!!!BLINKY!!!]

Yes really.. He holds 4 or 5 world records and multiple world titles.. http://www.termpro.com/asp/competitorstats.asp?Competitor_ID=477

Check him out hes for real an he owns NSPL as well.. Hes been around for years..

The van he has now does crazy numbers...

[Mosin]

im sorry buddy but EVERY l7 setup ive heard sounded like GARBAGE!!!!! sure it got loud. but it didnt sound very well.

and no .. im saying newbs confuse distortion with loudness. every highscoolers system ive seen had the gain and frequency cranked and sounded like garbage. but it was loud to them.. i reset their amps. and it sounded clean and they are like its not as loud now.. (not l7 specific)

[ISO]

I have made L7s sound really good.

I'm not sure how big of a difference it is for a sub to sound good verse being accurate but I have had multiple setups were I have made the L7 sound very very accurate in a ported box and I have made them sound damn good in small sealed boxes.

I have been useing L7's since 2002 and have owened 4 out of the 5 different versions of them. With the 2000 and 2006 models as my favorites. I have not used the 2008 to current model.

Yes they can sound good and can easily handle 200 watts more than rated power without breaking a sweat.