chapo123 Posted May 20, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2010 x2 to being around people that dont know shit lol Steve I don't know why but everytime I see your new paint I want a Dr. Pepper...... is this normal? heres an analogy for you. running a high power stereo without a fuse is like having unprotected sex with that hot chick at the bar with the sketchy sexual history. Sure you may be fine and nothing happens but that one time something does happen you're fucked. i dont want woofer broke like bass sound clip clip and voice coil overheat 2 sa12s, saz1500 build log http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/91183-chapo123s-sundown-build-log/page__gopid__1250604entry1250604 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chapo123 Posted May 20, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2010 i feel special that my thread is getting so much attention Steve I don't know why but everytime I see your new paint I want a Dr. Pepper...... is this normal? heres an analogy for you. running a high power stereo without a fuse is like having unprotected sex with that hot chick at the bar with the sketchy sexual history. Sure you may be fine and nothing happens but that one time something does happen you're fucked. i dont want woofer broke like bass sound clip clip and voice coil overheat 2 sa12s, saz1500 build log http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/91183-chapo123s-sundown-build-log/page__gopid__1250604entry1250604 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baaudio Posted May 20, 2010 Report Share Posted May 20, 2010 Ya sorry for threadjacking chapo. Good luck with your troubleshooting bro Team NWSPL baaudio Build Log 2001 GMC Sierra walkthrough 4 Mechman Elite 370s, 10 AGM batteries, 3 Crossfire XS v2 18s, Crossfire 8k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chapo123 Posted May 20, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2010 lol its cool. i like the attention Steve I don't know why but everytime I see your new paint I want a Dr. Pepper...... is this normal? heres an analogy for you. running a high power stereo without a fuse is like having unprotected sex with that hot chick at the bar with the sketchy sexual history. Sure you may be fine and nothing happens but that one time something does happen you're fucked. i dont want woofer broke like bass sound clip clip and voice coil overheat 2 sa12s, saz1500 build log http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/91183-chapo123s-sundown-build-log/page__gopid__1250604entry1250604 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gotz1lung Posted May 20, 2010 Report Share Posted May 20, 2010 It does control the current because it doesn't allow more amperage then its rated for. The amp will only draw as much as its designed for, that your right about. However a short within the amplifer could cause a surge of power from the battery that is say 150 amps. The fuse will pass that through but the amplifer may not be designed for that load and the internals get fried because of that You realize your in a pissing match with a amp producer right? King owns his OWN amplifier company...Just a FYI is all Good day sirs.. 93 Chevy Silverado Crossfire,Dayton Soon to have 6 Lvl4 15s DC Audio Dealer and Team Member Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingsuv Posted May 20, 2010 Report Share Posted May 20, 2010 It does control the current because it doesn't allow more amperage then its rated for. The amp will only draw as much as its designed for, that your right about. However a short within the amplifer could cause a surge of power from the battery that is say 150 amps. The fuse will pass that through but the amplifer may not be designed for that load and the internals get fried because of that If an amplifier pulls more current then it was designed to handle then it is an amplifier issue. Not a fuse issue Typically you will see a large draw in the power system just before the amplifier takes a shit ( goes up in smoke / protect ) or when the install is incorrect. Like lower then recommended ohm loads or a bad install. I have pulled my head out of my butt, sir. I get what you are saying and it makes total sense. Anyways I learned something today lol. As for my earlier reply, it came from years of working with crap systems and dumb friends that told me such things. No worries. just want to make sure the mis-informed are enlightened You realize your in a pissing match with a amp producer right? King owns his OWN amplifier company...Just a FYI is all Good day sirs.. Puff Puff Pass Designing, building, and shipping boxes. Yahoo IM - kingsuv00If the listening level is too loud, please inform the driver, so he can promptly pull over, and let you out. not many cars can get me to pluggin my ears but this one.......damn. I mean the first minute is ok but that thing just really starts digging deeper and deeper in your earhole till you cant stand it no more. Seems like it does it with relative ease....16 12's on 8 amps.........gotta love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7jezuz7 Posted May 20, 2010 Report Share Posted May 20, 2010 All I can say is open the amplifier up and see if anything is literally fried in there. An Audio Technix 18" Strato on a Kicker KX120.2 My Youtube Bass Vids Updates When Possible... I've bought from JBurt09, OrionStang, bcpballer64, LoudNLow931, audioman21, and CJ18 from here (as refs) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baaudio Posted May 20, 2010 Report Share Posted May 20, 2010 Okay so if this was the problem your saying the amp was already a problem but the 60a fuse protected it since the draw was greater then 60a but the 200a didn't because it was less then that but enough to fry the amp? Team NWSPL baaudio Build Log 2001 GMC Sierra walkthrough 4 Mechman Elite 370s, 10 AGM batteries, 3 Crossfire XS v2 18s, Crossfire 8k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingsuv Posted May 20, 2010 Report Share Posted May 20, 2010 Okay so if this was the problem your saying the amp was already a problem but the 60a fuse protected it since the draw was greater then 60a but the 200a didn't because it was less then that but enough to fry the amp? My 1st thought is that the amp was wired too low for a stable operation. a 60 amp fuse would allow it to protect through the fuse long before the amp went into terminal runaway. this doesn't always mean the amp it self will get hot. Sometimes the internals will get hot and fry long before you have a chance to get the heatsink warm. The 2nd thing I would look at is the system install. Bad grounds and crappy voltage will do a number on a amp quick. a 60 amp fuse would open long before the amp had the chance to really pull some current. Pulling more current then the system can supply can cause the voltage to drop down into unsafe numbers. Having the right size fuse for the amp allows the amp to pull the current needed to make power. This will also cause strain on the electrical system causing voltage to drop. 10v and under causes the amp to do bad things to the switching circuit. Your install is only as good as the weakest point. Often times this weak spot is the ground. It does no good to feed an amp tons of current if it can not complete the circuit in the ground side. You will see a power supply work hard to keep up while trying to ground through any means necessary. Sometimes this can be through the RCA jackets or heatsinks. Designing, building, and shipping boxes. Yahoo IM - kingsuv00If the listening level is too loud, please inform the driver, so he can promptly pull over, and let you out. not many cars can get me to pluggin my ears but this one.......damn. I mean the first minute is ok but that thing just really starts digging deeper and deeper in your earhole till you cant stand it no more. Seems like it does it with relative ease....16 12's on 8 amps.........gotta love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Lane Posted May 20, 2010 Report Share Posted May 20, 2010 You can't "Over current" an amp. Think about this. If you have an amp that only has 40 amps of fusing and a 200 amp alt, Will the additional 160 amps of "current" blow the fuse or break the amp? Of course not. Or else every small 4 ch amp would fry in all these big power setups. Besides, what about all those little 5 amp fuses in the car? does that mean your alt only puts out 5 amps of "current" Now too much or too little voltage can be a different story. I would say in his case, too little voltage or a bad grounding would be a good start. And if your "friend" welded a connection to the frame and it melted off then I am going to say he is a horrible welder No he didn't weld it, he had his ground attached to a part of the car that was spot welded to the vehicle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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