my wifes sister kicked the bucket.....

[Hugh G. Rection]

On a serious note though, blaming a drug addict for things they do is no different than blaming a diabetic for the things they have to do and go through. In both cases it's a sickness and in both cases it's one that can be brought on by bad choices the person has made and in both cases death is a likely outcome.

please spare me the horse shit. you can not compare drug addiction to being a diabetic. you make a choice to start doing drugs, then you make a choice to continue doing drugs. drug addiction and alcoholism are not sicknesses.

i guess you think mcdonalds is to blame for people dieing from obesity too.

[Team808]

disclaimer - i apologize ahead of time if i seem a little too cold towards the situation, i dont mean to be.

so heres the deal. this story is an archetype example of bad parenting and a failed legal system.

my wife has (had) 2 sisters. one is very smart, and is doing good things with her life. this is the sister i have alot of respect for. however, the other sister is (was) a real piece of shit. you know what i mean, one of these people who is just a real piece of work.

the sister in question here, died last night. lets get some history here. the dead sister has a long history of stupid shit. she has had i think 4 abortions, 2 miscarriages, and has (had) one child who is 2 years old and was born addicted to drugs, who she only went full term with because she needed a new fashion accessory, this being the child. she got into drugs several years ago. over the last 3 years, she has gotten 5 dui's, stolen 2 cars, totalled 3 cars, tried to kill herself by running her car into a tree, ran from the law, signed away her rights to her child, been legally forbidden from having any involvement at all with her child, been in re-hab 4 times, and been arrested countless times for drugs. momma has always been there to get her out of everything, and the judge has always been there to let her go "for having such a hard life". her mother was addicted to helping her, and also addicted to the attention of having a child who was always in the news. this sister, about 6 months ago, had to be bailed out of 2 different jails in the same day. she also prostituted herself for drugs every day.

last night she left rehab and decided to go hook up with some of her drug buddies. she got her fix, passed out, then they couldnt wake her up this morning.

i do not feel sorry for her. i do not feel sorry for the mother. i do not feel sorry for any of the drug buddies. the only people i feel sorry for are the child, my wife, the remaining sister, and the step father. my wife called me this morning flipping out when she got the news, all i could say was "well, im surprised it took this long". ive been 100% prepared for this for 2 1/2 years.

i came home from work and drove my wife to her mothers house, and i had to leave when they started getting all religious and talking about how god is so merciful, and works in mysterious ways and all this other flat out bullshit. merciful my ass. you would think that if an all powerful being were loving and merciful, then there would have been some divine intervention going on, wouldnt you?

now my wife feels guilty. we havent had anything to do with this sister ever since she grabbed a knife at christmas dinner 3 years ago, and then jumped over the table and tried to kill her (my wife). my wife thinks that by not talking to her she has somehow contributed to this.

so i will now bring this stupid little post to an end. this is what you get when you have a fucked up mother enabling a child to do all of this, and then bailing her out every time something goes wrong. this is also just as much to blame on our legal system, for not putting their foot down on her years ago, and always letting her go because she had a "rough life". the dead sister was 18 years old.

half ass correctional system + mother of the year = this.

Very sad story ,too bad no one could help to make a difference .Good thing she didnt take anyone elses life with her .

[n8ball2013]

I dont agree with that. If you didnt do drugs in the first place you wouldnt know you were capable of addiction. Addiction is a choice you made at a point in your life.

You don't have to agree with it, but that doesn't make it any less true

Im assuming that you feel that illegal drug use is perfectly acceptable? Bottom line is you dont do and abuse something you can't get addicted to it.

[Sanitarium]

i guess you think mcdonalds is to blame for people dieing from obesity too.

No no no.

Guns kill people.

So spoons make fat people fat!.

As for the original story. Yes drugs have the ability to make people feel dependent on them.. strongly. But as you said, it's always a choice.

I know plenty of people who have quit all of that sort of stuff after long periods of time (say.. 10+ years) and done so cold turkey.

[SQMonte]

On a serious note though, blaming a drug addict for things they do is no different than blaming a diabetic for the things they have to do and go through. In both cases it's a sickness and in both cases it's one that can be brought on by bad choices the person has made and in both cases death is a likely outcome.

please spare me the horse shit. you can not compare drug addiction to being a diabetic. you make a choice to start doing drugs, then you make a choice to continue doing drugs. drug addiction and alcoholism are not sicknesses.

i guess you think mcdonalds is to blame for people dieing from obesity too.

For the person who posted that the Mayo Clinic doesn't list it as a sickness (I like how you took that down real quick), The National Institute on Drug Abuse does! http://www.nida.nih.gov/podat/Preface.html

Sure, McDonalds can share blame in our country's obesity problem! At the end of the day we make the choice what and where we're going to eat but let's be honest, the garbage food is far more accessible, and alot cheaper than the healthy alternatives. Given the sheer number of people in this country at or below the poverty level, what do you think they're going to choose?

[big dee]

she made her own choices in life. we cant blame others for what we do

[n8ball2013]

On a serious note though, blaming a drug addict for things they do is no different than blaming a diabetic for the things they have to do and go through. In both cases it's a sickness and in both cases it's one that can be brought on by bad choices the person has made and in both cases death is a likely outcome.

please spare me the horse shit. you can not compare drug addiction to being a diabetic. you make a choice to start doing drugs, then you make a choice to continue doing drugs. drug addiction and alcoholism are not sicknesses.

i guess you think mcdonalds is to blame for people dieing from obesity too.

For the person who posted that the Mayo Clinic doesn't list it as a sickness (I like how you took that down real quick), The National Institute on Drug Abuse does! http://www.nida.nih.gov/podat/Preface.html

Sure, McDonalds can share blame in our country's obesity problem! At the end of the day we make the choice what and where we're going to eat but let's be honest, the garbage food is far more accessible, and alot cheaper than the healthy alternatives. Given the sheer number of people in this country at or below the poverty level, what do you think they're going to choose?

i did take it down. mainly because you can take it either way so it wasn't definitive. You did avoid my question. Is it acceptable to use illegal drugs? And get back to the point of the discussion. dont go off on a mcdonalds rant.

Dont forget that the nation institute for drug abuse is there because of pepole who view it as a sickness. Like Ive said if you dont do the drugs you wouldnt be in that situation. noboyd is forcing you to take drugs.

[Hugh G. Rection]

she made her own choices in life. we cant blame others for what we do

well, you never know. if she had actually faced the consequences of her actions instead of always getting a free pass on everything, then maybe she would have learned. its hard to learn from your actions if there is never any consequence.

[Hugh G. Rection]

For the person who posted that the Mayo Clinic doesn't list it as a sickness (I like how you took that down real quick), The National Institute on Drug Abuse does! http://www.nida.nih.gov/podat/Preface.html

so you believe drug abuse is a sickness just because a national institute says it is? well, i hope that sickness isnt contagious. you never know when you might catch the heroin sickness from standing too close to someone when they cough.

[El1T3Bass]

sorry to hear man, thats pretty fucked up.

one of my old best freinds started getting into drugs last year and it got really bad for him. his mom didnt care and let him go out and do whatever. so he kept doing drugs, ended up totaling his car while high. then one night him and some of my other old freinds decided to go rob a mega gas station with guns...

its been a month since then and all 3 of them are out of juvy. they got off with like 40 hours of CS and a year of probation... all three of them are now back on drugs because of terrible parenting and shitty law enforcement.