OldsBoomer Posted February 25, 2011 Report Posted February 25, 2011 O geez SQ is NOT and i repeat NOT meant to be loud at all. I would never use an 18" in a SQ setup. I would run maybe two 10"s sealed but thats it. Your mids and high are supposed to blend very "smoothly" which mean bass isn't louder then mids and highs and vice versa. I put a Peavey Low Rider 18" in my buddy's escort and it sounded like GOD! well personally i'd rather run smaller subs and maybe 1-2 more in sealed enclosure. I can get a good flat response with the subs and I like the double beats with smaller subs on lower power levels. Quote Suburban Coming Soon
bkolfo4 Posted February 25, 2011 Report Posted February 25, 2011 My first massive cone area setup is my home theater. With 8 18" subs, I can tell you there can be incredible SQ with large subs and a lot of cone area. . .minimizing excursion can definitely add to the overall SQ. Quote Current system: 1997 Blazer - (4) Customer Fi NEO subs with (8) American Bass Elite 2800.1s Previous systems: 2000 Suburban - (4) BTL 15's and (4) IA 40.1's = 157.7 dB at 37 Hz. 1992 Astro Van - (6) BTL 15's and (6) IA 40.1's = 159.7 dB at 43 Hz.
Ford302Redneck Posted February 25, 2011 Report Posted February 25, 2011 O geez SQ is NOT and i repeat NOT meant to be loud at all. I would never use an 18" in a SQ setup. I would run maybe two 10"s sealed but thats it. Your mids and high are supposed to blend very "smoothly" which mean bass isn't louder then mids and highs and vice versa. I'm going to disagree. Cone area really has nothing to do with SQ to a certain extent. That's like saying you can only uses 6.5 inch mids. Quote
OldsBoomer Posted February 25, 2011 Report Posted February 25, 2011 O geez SQ is NOT and i repeat NOT meant to be loud at all. I would never use an 18" in a SQ setup. I would run maybe two 10"s sealed but thats it. Your mids and high are supposed to blend very "smoothly" which mean bass isn't louder then mids and highs and vice versa. I'm going to disagree. Cone area really has nothing to do with SQ to a certain extent. That's like saying you can only uses 6.5 inch mids. you say you disagree then agree.. And Bkolf04 aren't those subs in a IB setup? Thats a whole different cenario. Quote Suburban Coming Soon
Ford302Redneck Posted February 25, 2011 Report Posted February 25, 2011 My first massive cone area setup is my home theater. With 8 18" subs, I can tell you there can be incredible SQ with large subs and a lot of cone area. . .minimizing excursion can definitely add to the overall SQ. That's what I was thinking. Its common in HT to have 18s. Quote
wL<3bass Posted February 25, 2011 Report Posted February 25, 2011 (edited) My first massive cone area setup is my home theater. With 8 18" subs, I can tell you there can be incredible SQ with large subs and a lot of cone area. . .minimizing excursion can definitely add to the overall SQ. That kinda my idea behind building a good sounding system... Have tons more cone area and power than you need and back it down... Just b/c the subs have 3" of throw doesn't mean you need to use it... Lowering the excursion of the woofer makes it much more responsive. To get my truck to blend and pay flat... My highs may be full tilt but my sub control is all the way down and it blends perfect... The sub only sees maybe 1/4" of excursion tops. Edited February 25, 2011 by wL<3bass Quote Vehicle: 1997 S10 Blazer 4dr 4X4 Exterior: Rear End Bagged, Black Grill, Lifted 2" Amplifiers: Rockford Fosgate T8004 & T10001bd Batteries: 2 Stinger SPV35, Kinetik HC2400 Electrical: Big 3, DC Power 290amp Alternator w/ MLA at 15.5v Enclosure: 4.2 ft³ @ 33Hz 84sq.in. of port (20sq.in. per cube) Headunit: Eclipse CD3200 w/ 80G iPod Mids/Highs: Rockford T152s (a-pillars), Rockford T162s (doors) Subwoofers: 1 15" Fi BL Fully Loaded Wire: All 1/0g Kicker Hyperflex My YouTube Videos My Fiberglass A-Pillar Build My "Seamless" Looking Box Build My DD1508 T-Line Bandpass Build "Seamless" w/ Acrylic Windows (for '05 TrailBlazer) My Stealth 8" Fiberglass Build (for '05 TrailBlazer) My Build For A Friend's '08 Cobalt 15" BL Sealed Off From The Trunk My feedback/references...
korey_hofer Posted February 26, 2011 Report Posted February 26, 2011 sq does not have a volume limit a ton of sq cars will make you bail, 120db at 1khz is brutal Quote previously known as wenn_du_weinst aka fucking internet coward supreme. I talk shit on other forums like a little bitch and hope i don't get caught out on the street.
RAM_Designs Posted February 26, 2011 Report Posted February 26, 2011 There are, and have been, many SQ guys using 15" and 18" subs. This is mainly due to the fact that with a larger cone you need less excursion for a given loudness, thus reducing distortion. Quote Ryan Miskin - owner of RAM Designs I have my PM's turned off, please email at <script data-cfhash='f9e31' type="text/javascript"> /* */</script> 2200+ designs since March 2011...
FreekDesignz Posted February 28, 2011 Author Report Posted February 28, 2011 What about coil size? How much does that have to do with SQ? Quote ♠ FreekDesignz Demo Collection ♠ Everything You Need To Know About Car Audio Torres' Box Tuning Calculator
General Posted February 28, 2011 Report Posted February 28, 2011 Answer to your openingspost and your latest question: Nothing! You can use the biggest, brutal subwoofer and still use it for SQ! It all depends on the box! Just create a lineair responsing box. (the flat sound stage wich was refered to) And use Real-Time-Analising (RTA) measurment to connect it to the kicks/mids en highs of your system. Quote ______Some people and performances are beyond words______ Chairman of the foundation "Propper-Droppers Holland" 2012 Founder of the European delegation of `Propper-Droppers' 2011 Dutch Champion EMMA SQ MultiMedia advanced 2010 European Champion EMMA SQ experienced 5 channel 2007 Dutch Champion EMMA SQ experienced 5 channel 2007 BeNeLux vice Champion dB-drag street-A 2007 Dutch vice Champion dB-drag ministreet-sedan 2004 _________________________________________ Propper Droppers is about deep, ground wobbling, elephant-and-whale stimulating Street Bass. The deep stuff. We test at different frequencies from deep, to low to snake’s belly. (Like 20Hz anyone?)
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