Dylank811 Posted August 14, 2011 Author Report Posted August 14, 2011 Sorry bro, i get carried away sometimes. lol. What i meant is for daily use it really isnt important, mainly people who do competing care about their impedance rise. The reason competitors care about their impedance rise is that impedance rise is similar to kinking a garden hose and trying to water something. Without the kink (no impedance rise) you are getting the maximum flow of water through the hose. Now if you kinked the hose (impedance rise) it would restrict the flow of water thus not letting you get a lot of water (output) from the hose. And for my situation i wanted the most power i possibly could have without burning my amps up so i cared about impedance rise since i wired my sub lower than the amps were made to work at. I actually wanted to have impedance rise so that my amps wouldnt be stressed out from having to work at .25 ohms. For me, impedance rise was good for me to have, to some extent. To most, impedance rise is a pain in the ass as it is hard to predict sometimes until after your setup is made. Shoulda clarified, I understood what you said. I just wanted to make fun of you! Yeah I could see how it would be important though. Edit: And I had to take advantage of the dig opportunity at Sony. 2004 Ford Mustang GTPioneer DEH-P7200HD head unitMach 460 Factory System Cadence FXA1600.2 Cadence S2W10 Cadence 4 AWG wiring Ported box, 2 cubes, 32 hertz
kickass audio Posted August 14, 2011 Report Posted August 14, 2011 haha you got me bro. i thought i got totally carried away. i am well known for doing that, . I wouldnt really worry about it, if you have the proper tools (clamp meter, and digital multi meter) you can detect imp rise easily. In fact if you have those tools i can tell you how to find out what your impedance rise is, what your amplifiers actual output is, all that good stuff. 2004 GMC Envoy1 XS power S3400 batt under the hood and 4 XS Power D3100's battery installed in the rear by the amps0 gauge power wire from front to backAlpine iva-w205 touchscreen dvd/cd/mp3/ipod/am/fm/gps headunitSundown Audio SAX-200.4 amp for my mids and highs8 gauge speaker wire from amp to woofer270 amp Mechman AltRockford Fosgate T1652-s component speakersRockford Fosgate 3Sixty.2 sound processorRca's from Rockford Fosgate and Monster Cable14 gauge speaker wire for the mids and highs1 18" Ascendant Audio SMD Dual 1 ohm with custom Black & Blue carbon fiber and hand signed dustcapBox: 5.66 cubic feet net volume box tuned to 30.13Hz with 1.5" wide wooden dowels and 1.5" thick baffle1 DC Audio 5.0k amp wired to .5 ohms nominal with an imp rise of 1.35 ohms for the single AA SMD 18"Future Vision 8000k 50w bi-xenon projector HID's with 4300k 35w fog lightsLink to my build: Buildupdates/progress
BassMunky Posted August 15, 2011 Report Posted August 15, 2011 i thought clipping was bad? Mine is a daily that why. Shakin not Stirred....my buildhttp://www.stevemead...ngle-cab-build/412 CVX And put a sealed enclosure in your trunk cut a hole in your deck and call it ported
kickass audio Posted August 15, 2011 Report Posted August 15, 2011 i thought clipping was bad? Mine is a daily that why. please excuse me but wtf are you talking about? I didnt say shit about clipping. We were talking about impedance rise. Imp rise is NOT AT ALL related to clipping in any manner. 2004 GMC Envoy1 XS power S3400 batt under the hood and 4 XS Power D3100's battery installed in the rear by the amps0 gauge power wire from front to backAlpine iva-w205 touchscreen dvd/cd/mp3/ipod/am/fm/gps headunitSundown Audio SAX-200.4 amp for my mids and highs8 gauge speaker wire from amp to woofer270 amp Mechman AltRockford Fosgate T1652-s component speakersRockford Fosgate 3Sixty.2 sound processorRca's from Rockford Fosgate and Monster Cable14 gauge speaker wire for the mids and highs1 18" Ascendant Audio SMD Dual 1 ohm with custom Black & Blue carbon fiber and hand signed dustcapBox: 5.66 cubic feet net volume box tuned to 30.13Hz with 1.5" wide wooden dowels and 1.5" thick baffle1 DC Audio 5.0k amp wired to .5 ohms nominal with an imp rise of 1.35 ohms for the single AA SMD 18"Future Vision 8000k 50w bi-xenon projector HID's with 4300k 35w fog lightsLink to my build: Buildupdates/progress
BJD3 Posted August 15, 2011 Report Posted August 15, 2011 i thought clipping was bad? Mine is a daily that why. please excuse me but wtf are you talking about? I didnt say shit about clipping. We were talking about impedance rise. Imp rise is NOT AT ALL related to clipping in any manner. Ahem Anti Peel and Seal...lol You may be offended by the above. Don't take it personally, I'm just abrasive. 2002 Buick Park Avenue DC Level 4 M2 12 D2 Car Audio Bargain 1600.1 Eclipse CD3200 ~2 cubes @ 34 hz. Stinger Roadkill Expert
kickass audio Posted August 15, 2011 Report Posted August 15, 2011 ohhh, oops. my apologies sir. (can you tell me how the hell you can make a link to have it go to the certain post # in a thread? im curious) Clipping is in every way bad for any system big or small. What i meant when i said that is that most ppl who believe that sony xplods are the best out there or run their pyle subs and nothing else will clip the hell out of their system and smoke it doing so just trying to be loud. Those same people dont know what impedance rise is, hell half of them dont even know what impedance is when just wiring them up to the amp like normal, lol. You dont ever want to clip your system because for one its bad for your speaker, and two its bad for the amp too. Heres how to view impedance rise: If you dont really care to know if you can get more potential out of your system and get as much power as you possibly can from your amps then dont worry about impedance rise. If you care about getting the most bang for your buck and squeezing out as much power as you can from your amp to make your speakers loud then you should care about impedance rise. 2004 GMC Envoy1 XS power S3400 batt under the hood and 4 XS Power D3100's battery installed in the rear by the amps0 gauge power wire from front to backAlpine iva-w205 touchscreen dvd/cd/mp3/ipod/am/fm/gps headunitSundown Audio SAX-200.4 amp for my mids and highs8 gauge speaker wire from amp to woofer270 amp Mechman AltRockford Fosgate T1652-s component speakersRockford Fosgate 3Sixty.2 sound processorRca's from Rockford Fosgate and Monster Cable14 gauge speaker wire for the mids and highs1 18" Ascendant Audio SMD Dual 1 ohm with custom Black & Blue carbon fiber and hand signed dustcapBox: 5.66 cubic feet net volume box tuned to 30.13Hz with 1.5" wide wooden dowels and 1.5" thick baffle1 DC Audio 5.0k amp wired to .5 ohms nominal with an imp rise of 1.35 ohms for the single AA SMD 18"Future Vision 8000k 50w bi-xenon projector HID's with 4300k 35w fog lightsLink to my build: Buildupdates/progress
Dylank811 Posted August 15, 2011 Author Report Posted August 15, 2011 How do you get rid of impedance rise? 2004 Ford Mustang GTPioneer DEH-P7200HD head unitMach 460 Factory System Cadence FXA1600.2 Cadence S2W10 Cadence 4 AWG wiring Ported box, 2 cubes, 32 hertz
kickass audio Posted August 15, 2011 Report Posted August 15, 2011 Quite simply you cannot. You can minimize the impact of imp rise but you can never truly get rid of it. Imp rise is one of the many evils of car audio you cant get rid of. lol. 2004 GMC Envoy1 XS power S3400 batt under the hood and 4 XS Power D3100's battery installed in the rear by the amps0 gauge power wire from front to backAlpine iva-w205 touchscreen dvd/cd/mp3/ipod/am/fm/gps headunitSundown Audio SAX-200.4 amp for my mids and highs8 gauge speaker wire from amp to woofer270 amp Mechman AltRockford Fosgate T1652-s component speakersRockford Fosgate 3Sixty.2 sound processorRca's from Rockford Fosgate and Monster Cable14 gauge speaker wire for the mids and highs1 18" Ascendant Audio SMD Dual 1 ohm with custom Black & Blue carbon fiber and hand signed dustcapBox: 5.66 cubic feet net volume box tuned to 30.13Hz with 1.5" wide wooden dowels and 1.5" thick baffle1 DC Audio 5.0k amp wired to .5 ohms nominal with an imp rise of 1.35 ohms for the single AA SMD 18"Future Vision 8000k 50w bi-xenon projector HID's with 4300k 35w fog lightsLink to my build: Buildupdates/progress
Dylank811 Posted August 15, 2011 Author Report Posted August 15, 2011 Quite simply you cannot. You can minimize the impact of imp rise but you can never truly get rid of it. Imp rise is one of the many evils of car audio you cant get rid of. lol. This seems like the kinda thing to make a person go into a rage fit and punching holes in his/her box with a sledgie. 2004 Ford Mustang GTPioneer DEH-P7200HD head unitMach 460 Factory System Cadence FXA1600.2 Cadence S2W10 Cadence 4 AWG wiring Ported box, 2 cubes, 32 hertz
kickass audio Posted August 15, 2011 Report Posted August 15, 2011 Oh yes it is frustrating quite a bit because you cant really do a damn thing about it. lol. The only affect you can have on imp rise is the box size. The bigger the box the lower the impedance rise, the smaller the box, the higher the impedance rise. (note: i may have that backwards but im fairly certain how i said it was right). Imp rise was good for me since i didnt want to run my amps at .25 each so im kinda glad i have imp rise but im also mad i have it going up to 1.5 some odd ohms because i am losing quite a bit of power out of my amps because of it but w/e ill live on. My system is loud for me and tues ill find out how loud it truly is 2004 GMC Envoy1 XS power S3400 batt under the hood and 4 XS Power D3100's battery installed in the rear by the amps0 gauge power wire from front to backAlpine iva-w205 touchscreen dvd/cd/mp3/ipod/am/fm/gps headunitSundown Audio SAX-200.4 amp for my mids and highs8 gauge speaker wire from amp to woofer270 amp Mechman AltRockford Fosgate T1652-s component speakersRockford Fosgate 3Sixty.2 sound processorRca's from Rockford Fosgate and Monster Cable14 gauge speaker wire for the mids and highs1 18" Ascendant Audio SMD Dual 1 ohm with custom Black & Blue carbon fiber and hand signed dustcapBox: 5.66 cubic feet net volume box tuned to 30.13Hz with 1.5" wide wooden dowels and 1.5" thick baffle1 DC Audio 5.0k amp wired to .5 ohms nominal with an imp rise of 1.35 ohms for the single AA SMD 18"Future Vision 8000k 50w bi-xenon projector HID's with 4300k 35w fog lightsLink to my build: Buildupdates/progress
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