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we need a like button here -_-

i wanna like that p.s. part :lol:

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deepsilencer, on 22 Aug 2011 - 17:32, said:

splzx3, on 22 Aug 2011 - 17:27, said:

i had my fun on one of his videos...till he blocked me then i got my mother into it lol after her he closed the comments xD

lol your mom is a G! good.gif

WTF, I never thought I'd have a conversation about cross dressers and trans-genders on a car audio forum.

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It gets boring reading about people who don't know anything make fun of others who don't know anything.

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we need a like button here -_-

i wanna like that p.s. part :lol:

Lol being a gold member i can + or - comments in threads FTW! So I gave ya a plus! LOL

I can't comment on what the dd-1 has since i don't currently own one, Something that was recorded with -15db is a far cry from something recorded at -3db and that was what i was trying to get across

Hence why I am saying the tone disc included with the dd-1 has multiple tones for your music listening needs.. From 0db, -3db, etc to -15db iirc from reading the book the other night.

Besides test tones are a dime a dozen. you can find many of them at all different decibel level on just about every audio site.

 

 

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we need a like button here -_-

i wanna like that p.s. part :lol:

Lol being a gold member i can + or - comments in threads FTW! So I gave ya a plus! LOL

I can't comment on what the dd-1 has since i don't currently own one, Something that was recorded with -15db is a far cry from something recorded at -3db and that was what i was trying to get across

Hence why I am saying the tone disc included with the dd-1 has multiple tones for your music listening needs.. From 0db, -3db, etc to -15db iirc from reading the book the other night.

Besides test tones are a dime a dozen. you can find many of them at all different decibel level on just about every audio site.

i just used the dd1 today at my local shop.

first we set the gains using the -10 because i like the low low music and wanted to get as much power as i could.

but my subs started to stink. not due to clipping just simply being over powered.

so we set gains with the -5.

but i fully do not understand the difference between the two. can someone explain?

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They are just different loudness levels of the tone for the most part.

the -5db tone will give you more sound quality, and will result in the best sound quality from your setup, but wont get as loud.

the -15db tone will give you more loudness (more spl, less sq).

the -10db tone will be a mix between -5 and -15 db. Giving you more sq than -15, but more power than 0-5.

If your running a lower model subwoofer with an amp more then the woofer(s) combined rms power, -5db is a wise idea!

 

 

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They are just different loudness levels of the tone for the most part.

the -5db tone will give you more sound quality, and will result in the best sound quality from your setup, but wont get as loud.

the -15db tone will give you more loudness (more spl, less sq).

the -10db tone will be a mix between -5 and -15 db. Giving you more sq than -15, but more power than 0-5.

If your running a lower model subwoofer with an amp more then the woofer(s) combined rms power, -5db is a wise idea!

awesome. i figured something along those lines.

i have two level 3's on a bc 2k so not quite a lower line but it gets down really well. im proud of them. waiting for the new level 3's to come out so i can buy 15's and finish my truck lol

and i did notice a big sq jump between the -5 and the -10.

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@D-train... Can I ask???

Did you see/check where your HU would clip at first??.. Or go right to the amp???

used the hu first.

no clip at full volume but i set it lower than that. then the amp

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Hey fellers, alright well im not very experienced in car audio, i know most of the basics but still learning for the most part, so i decided I was going to get another car stereo system (DC level 3) and didn't want to clip the sub to death, so being smart about this i went to my local radio shop about 10 miles away and ask them how much it would be, then shortly after i asked "Do you set the gains by ear?" They replied Yeah we listen to it and set the gains, then i replied Oh you don't use a O-Scope? They said oh we use that to. What a shame. I left the shop quickly laughing because the store told me just want i wanted to hear, not what they do. Really wish i could find a quality shop around here that doesn't always give me a load of bs. Anyways was just wondering any other stories if somethin like this happened to you at your local shop would love to read about it. Not like i have anything better to do right now haha.

I was an installer from 1987 - 1995 and worked for 5 different shops in the San Diego area and the 5th one (out of those 5) I worked for was the only shop that had a scope. From 1995 - 2009 I worked for two different manufacturers both in the top 10 of largest american car audio brands and during that time, I never saw anyone pull out a scope to adjust the gains on any of the cars that went to SEMA or CES. Not really any point to this, just saying.

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