LCort101 Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 So, after completing the little project in my friend Justin's Exploder, I found another victim that will let me work on his vehicle. Actually, it's a funny story, My Son David, who wants to be a fabricator, brought home buddy who wanted to build a system. So this one isn't just about building a system, but it's also about teaching two young men a new skill. The Project: The owner, Robert, has a Nissan Versa. It's a small car that borders on my threshold of claustrophobic feelings. In my ultimate desire of always wanting to fit the square peg in the round hole, I am delighted to take part in Robert's vision and develop something insane in this little car. Of course, and in case you don't know this by now, if I'm doing it, it's got to be pretty (said "Prittay"). We are fitting 10 pounds of shit in a 2 pound bag guys. Here's the idea: Robert brought me the car already treated with Dynamat and I had him take out the un-necessary back paneling and seating. The beginning of some box work, no port yet: Oh, BTW, check it out, we spent some time on the shop. We (my Sons, Justin and I) put down some new white laminate countertops and painted all the cabinets. If you look back at Justin's build, you'll see how bad everything looked. It's all top quality now. I'm really happy about it.... Four boxes assembled together. Faceplate attached to boxes to make them all one piece, and all holes route red out. Don't pay attention to the pilot hole I drilled in the wrong place. Once I router out for the countersinking of the woofers, the hole will go away. So that's it for now. I started it last Friday, but had to leave for the weekend. Worked on it for a few hours today and had some fun with it. I'm really digging this stuff again. I realize we have a long road ahead of us on this one. I hope to teach these guys some good stuff, and maybe even share some stuff with anyone watching. Later... Funky Lu WYLA Designs What Ya Lookin At? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguels Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 looking good so far my logshttp://www.stevemead...-my-new-set-up/my blow through loghttp://www.stevemead...future-updates/ 96 ss http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/164094-96-impala-ss-build/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n8ball2013 Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 what made you do four seperate boxes? THERE IS NO BUILD LOG! 1998 Chevy Silverado ext cab Alpine CDA-9887 4 Team Fi 15s 2 Ampere Audio TFE 8.0 2 Ampere Audio 150.4 3 Digital Designs CS6.5 component sets Dual Mechman 370XP Elite alternators inbound! 8 XS Power d3400 6 XS power d680 Second Skin Stinger Tsunami Wiring Sky High A Real Voltmeter not a piece of shit stinger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armykyle1 Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 what made you do four seperate boxes? X2 but looks good so far! TEAM XS POWERTEAM HEAVY HERTZMy build- http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/194454-e46-bmw-build-pos/#entry2914134youtube- http://www.youtube.com/user/armykyle1big build starting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCaLBaMF Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 what made you do four seperate boxes? Probably for easier removability if he ever needs to take it out my guess.. 2004 Bagged Trailblazer (4)18" Sundown Nsv3s (4) Taramps HD10000s, Taramps DSP3000, Lanzar opti 250x2, AB 100x4 (2)DC power SP 270s, (14)XS Power d3100s, (1)d6500 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lbox88 Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 The only benefit I see from 4 boxes is that with each box, if 1 sub blew, you could still play the other 3 without screwing up airspace, and that you can slide in smaller boxes separately and throw a faceplate on to make them one if you can't make 1 box box fit through the opening. EDIT: Ninja'd UBL | Build Log Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
getlocivic Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 thats how i build my wall in the civic.. 2 seperate boxes..that way if i blew a sub or 2..i could stil have some beat left to play.. btw i wanna see the outcome of this lolol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n8ball2013 Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 i asked him because not only is it more work its proven to not be as loud. THERE IS NO BUILD LOG! 1998 Chevy Silverado ext cab Alpine CDA-9887 4 Team Fi 15s 2 Ampere Audio TFE 8.0 2 Ampere Audio 150.4 3 Digital Designs CS6.5 component sets Dual Mechman 370XP Elite alternators inbound! 8 XS Power d3400 6 XS power d680 Second Skin Stinger Tsunami Wiring Sky High A Real Voltmeter not a piece of shit stinger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJSmith Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 Looks great so far. *Rebuid in progress* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LCort101 Posted February 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 Well I certainly didn't mean to spark up such controversy over the box. There are several reasons behind it actually. I originally wanted to do a sealed enclosure for all the woofers. Robert already had one proved enclosure at the manufacturer recommended air space that hit pretty hard so he asked me if we could do porte instead. It is my belief that no one knows their speakers better than the manufacturer so if they tell me their drivers work best in this box, I'm going to follow it. Based on physics, and basic laws of audio, every doubling of cone area will give me an additional 3dB. Therefor duplicating a box that already sounds great twice gives me a 6 dB increase over his initial box. The quadrupling of power will also gain us an additional 6dB. I project this will definitely be loud enough. The plans aren't to compete or anything of the sort at this point. He just wants a loud car and he's pretty specific about what he wants. Now, there are other reasons. It is simple to fit the four separate boxes into the car and assemble them as one unit after they are in there. Second, Since each woofer has its own enclosure and all the enclosures will be stacked next to and on top of each other, it creates a doubling of my walls (stronger box). I also plan on adding a solid back panel on the box as well as solid side panels making all my walls 1.5" thick. We, of course will be resin coating the inside of the boxes for additional support. Lastly, remember, I have been out of this industry for about 12 years now. I am not looking to re-invent anything right now. I'm still getting in the swing of things. If anyone out there has used these drivers in a single chamber ported enclosure proven to perform better than the Manufacturer recommendations, I am willing to learn... Here's today's progress: I made a copy of the subwoofer: Then I drew the copy onto another board and cut out an oversized negative of it: Then i filled the space between my oversized negative and the woofer copy with body filler and let it harden. Once the filler hardened, I made a copy of the negative. This gave me an insert, a ring, and a cutout for flush mounting the speakers into the box. I then used my new flush mount template for creating flush mount opening for all the woofers (one by one): And another phase of the project finished: Notice the hell-ified round over on the ports. I just bought that bit. It was $150 for it, but I love the finish. So while I played with routers all night, Robert spent some time applying resin to the inside of the boxes. You might be able to see it in some of the pics. It's one of those thing you're glad is there, but you don't necessarily want to look at it. Tomorrow's another day. See ya... Funky Lu WYLA Designs What Ya Lookin At? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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