RossGo Posted November 22, 2013 Report Share Posted November 22, 2013 To answer n8s questions, as Dom answered them for me Wire change: he thinks blue and orange look dumb together. And the main runs to the front were black. He didn't want to use black for power (Berger has since stated those were the original runs, and it was intended for those to be replaced down the road) No fuses: he wants to guarantee that a battery is always connected, in case the rears are ever maintenanced or disconnected. The only way he could guarantee that was by how he did that. We didn't get a chance to discuss further into detail on that before the "thread" was deleted Fuel cell: he had to move it for the battery (to address the problem above) and the alternators on that side. He also does not agree with a fuel cell in an engine bay. Once again, we did not get to address this further. The fueling issue was the whole reason I became active in this thread, but I believe it has been accounted for by Berger now. And for Dom, the exhaust issue we started to talk about has been resolved. In theory at least I know most of you are tired of posts in this thread, but I don't think it can go anywhere else without getting instantly out of control. The issues have been answered. It is up for the builders to work it out. A color scheme can be easily resolved by trippi. The rest can be engineered around. It's just a give and take between them, and there is plenty of time when neither of them have the truck to work those kinks out Yes I have a lot of stereo weight. I build for Smiles Per Gallon not Miles Per Gallon LOLZ My build - 1996 4Runner with 2 18s - 149+ in a sealed box (with radiators) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
775Tundra Posted November 22, 2013 Report Share Posted November 22, 2013 my .2 cents fuck the warranty and rewire the alts and fuse them.. rather lose out on 12 alts over the hummer plus equipment.. if you really believe he builds solid alts then you shouldnt worry about them going to shit. for people saying if the fuse goes bad it can damage the alts.. i think that the last worry and if it wasnt worth it why do cars come fused from factory? Not all cars come fused from the alts. My 2012 tundra didn't. Or 2011 Camry. Or 2003 tahoe. Or 95 Aerostar. Or 95 integra. 2003 Tahoe dc 7.5k dc level 5 15's (3) MMats 341's xs power batts lots of sky high cable dual alts(came off the sky-high gmc and don't know who made them) ipad in center console vu-din in center console all being ripped out and being sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith77 Posted November 22, 2013 Report Share Posted November 22, 2013 I'm done eating breakfast I mean dinner. Are you ? Thats cool. Im way too old to be upset by shit like that. Your name is winston. Your own parents hated you even before you were born. My penis is bigger than your penis I'm far from loud and my roof/headliner flaps around like Adam's ass on a windy day. I think it depends more on the structure of the vehicle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowDrifter Posted November 22, 2013 Report Share Posted November 22, 2013 Wow... Just wow... Hope it works out. I really do. ~~~~~~~~SAY NO TO PHOTOBUCKET~~~~~~~~ Snow's DD-1 tracks here: https://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/167433-snows-dd-1-tracks/ My take on OFC vs CCA: https://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/110381-things-that-piss-you-off-in-the-car-audio-world/?do=findComment&comment=2461444 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSkippyJ Posted November 22, 2013 Report Share Posted November 22, 2013 i hope they move it to another thread so this one will be about the build. F150: Stock 2019 Harley Road Glide: Amp: TM400Xad - 4 channel 400 watt Processor: DSR1 Fairing (Front) 6.5s -MMats PA601cx Lid (Rear) 6x9s - TMS69 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CortezDTV Posted November 22, 2013 Report Share Posted November 22, 2013 my .2 cents fuck the warranty and rewire the alts and fuse them.. rather lose out on 12 alts over the hummer plus equipment.. if you really believe he builds solid alts then you shouldnt worry about them going to shit. for people saying if the fuse goes bad it can damage the alts.. i think that the last worry and if it wasnt worth it why do cars come fused from factory? Not all cars come fused from the alts. My 2012 tundra didn't. Or 2011 Camry. Or 2003 tahoe. Or 95 Aerostar. Or 95 integra. You would be hard pressed to find car that comes fused from the alt like that; even cars with batts in the back..... The most they will have is a disable link but that is very rare Alts need a constant battery.... It's that simple Ever try hooking up a msd box to power and ground off the alt? It won't work..... Needs the compasitence from battery I didn't understand why burger wanted orange and blue it is a little off color scheme Well not for him the Uof A must be getting to him SCSB Santa Cruz Speaker Box Build logs: Daily Driver Lemon Marquis 2 american bass 750.1s 350.4 on 14 focal 6.5s sq 945 on 4 hertz tweeters Mystery subs http://www.stevemead...__fromsearch__1 The Mustang 'dubbed' Shirley the project from bullet holes to badass http://www.stevemead...cond-skin-time/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguels Posted November 22, 2013 Report Share Posted November 22, 2013 my .2 cents fuck the warranty and rewire the alts and fuse them.. rather lose out on 12 alts over the hummer plus equipment.. if you really believe he builds solid alts then you shouldnt worry about them going to shit. for people saying if the fuse goes bad it can damage the alts.. i think that the last worry and if it wasnt worth it why do cars come fused from factory? Not all cars come fused from the alts. My 2012 tundra didn't. Or 2011 Camry. Or 2003 tahoe. Or 95 Aerostar. Or 95 integra. camry fuse just because you cant see them or dont look like regular fuses it dont mean they arent there my logshttp://www.stevemead...-my-new-set-up/my blow through loghttp://www.stevemead...future-updates/ 96 ss http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/164094-96-impala-ss-build/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguels Posted November 22, 2013 Report Share Posted November 22, 2013 my .2 cents fuck the warranty and rewire the alts and fuse them.. rather lose out on 12 alts over the hummer plus equipment.. if you really believe he builds solid alts then you shouldnt worry about them going to shit. for people saying if the fuse goes bad it can damage the alts.. i think that the last worry and if it wasnt worth it why do cars come fused from factory? Not all cars come fused from the alts. My 2012 tundra didn't. Or 2011 Camry. Or 2003 tahoe. Or 95 Aerostar. Or 95 integra. You would be hard pressed to find car that comes fused from the alt like that; even cars with batts in the back..... The most they will have is a disable link but that is very rare Alts need a constant battery.... It's that simple Ever try hooking up a msd box to power and ground off the alt? It won't work..... Needs the compasitence from battery I didn't understand why burger wanted orange and blue it is a little off color scheme Well not for him the Uof A must be getting to him i know alts need to have constant power from battery so it wont go to shit .. it dont mean you shouldnt run a fuse. if the fuse pops it means you have a short, a short means sparks and fire.. i think a car company rather see a car blow an alternator than for the car to burn down and kill people in it.. i know what you mean but you are trying to save a $500 part vs a car and even a life so if you dont run a fuse in line with alt why even fuse the runs to the back? edit: i will stop the thread jacking now.. my logshttp://www.stevemead...-my-new-set-up/my blow through loghttp://www.stevemead...future-updates/ 96 ss http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/164094-96-impala-ss-build/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wicks Posted November 22, 2013 Report Share Posted November 22, 2013 To answer n8s questions, as Dom answered them for me Wire change: he thinks blue and orange look dumb together. And the main runs to the front were black. He didn't want to use black for power (Berger has since stated those were the original runs, and it was intended for those to be replaced down the road) No fuses: he wants to guarantee that a battery is always connected, in case the rears are ever maintenanced or disconnected. The only way he could guarantee that was by how he did that. We didn't get a chance to discuss further into detail on that before the "thread" was deleted Fuel cell: he had to move it for the battery (to address the problem above) and the alternators on that side. He also does not agree with a fuel cell in an engine bay. Once again, we did not get to address this further. The fueling issue was the whole reason I became active in this thread, but I believe it has been accounted for by Berger now. And for Dom, the exhaust issue we started to talk about has been resolved. In theory at least I know most of you are tired of posts in this thread, but I don't think it can go anywhere else without getting instantly out of control. The issues have been answered. It is up for the builders to work it out. A color scheme can be easily resolved by trippi. The rest can be engineered around. It's just a give and take between them, and there is plenty of time when neither of them have the truck to work those kinks out I understand why extreme competition vehicles are unfused. They are strictly competition devices and they don't demo. Trippi's Hummer is going to be what a 100kW demo monster? Therefore a LOT of people will be in and around it all day at a show. So Dom wants a constant load (battery) on each Alt, Therefore you're (Iraggi) is willing to risk public safety for an event that might happen once or never just to protect his alternators....??? Why can't Iraggi tell the customer to never run the system without the proper battery bank if he's so worried? When would this happen anyway? "During 'maintenance', what the hell, let's crank the system and see what we can do without batteries........" ? Sounds shady to me. This post sent with 100% recycled electrons. 2004 BMW M3Mechman 280A 2 - XS Power XP30001 - XS Power D375 500F of Maxwell SuperCaps (soon to be 1000F) iPadMini2Dash mounted O-scopeAudison bitOne (Remote DRC MP) Highs Amp - PPI Art A404 Hertz HSK130 (HSK165 waiting...) DC Audio DC9.0K 2- DC Audio XL12m2LEGAL - 147.3dB @ 41Hz OUTLAW - 150.2dB @ 45Hz OUTLAW - 145.7dB @ 30Hz JUNE 2014 SOTM WINNER 2014 COLORADO PEOPLE'S CHOICE WINNER SOTM BUILD:http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/141656-wicks-e46-m3-build-bass-turbo-button-and-a-big-new-addition/page-68#entry2802026 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RossGo Posted November 22, 2013 Report Share Posted November 22, 2013 I agree with you exactly wicks I wasn't stating my logic. I was stating Dom's answers. As he said, I am one of the few people who knows some of the specifics. So I laid them out I think a load battery mounted to the side that is connected to the entire alt system would solve that issue wonderfully. Then the twelve main runs could be fused Yes I have a lot of stereo weight. I build for Smiles Per Gallon not Miles Per Gallon LOLZ My build - 1996 4Runner with 2 18s - 149+ in a sealed box (with radiators) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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