bighossf150 Posted August 6, 2014 Report Share Posted August 6, 2014 Shit I didn't realize it was that small, my xfls were in 2.4 each tuned to 33 with 15.4 sq in per cube, I told you to go bigger on the box lol Used to have a loud truck 2009 Corvette Z06, H/C/I, 150 shot, g force tune, 730rwhp/690rwtq 2013 F-150 limited, MPT Tune, leveled on 35"s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swordlordboy1234 Posted August 7, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2014 The port has added efficiency with the kerfs so it's no where near as bad as you guys think. It's just not good for any dd woofers or woofers with 60mm of Xmax like sundown mega roll subs. There are plenty of subs that will be perfect for my application especially if I custom build them. Its 110% not being rebuilt. It's as big as it can be and there is no way I could match robins quality. Plus having to re do my seal off... AGAIN... all my carpeting... AGAIN... all my beauty panels .. AGAIN. I don't have that time or patience at this point in my life to uninstall.... Rebuild everything, attempt to even make it half as nice as it is, and reinstall. Box stays. The mission is to find the perfect subs for the box instead of building a box that works with the subs I have. Like I said, it's already as good as it's getting with my given space and it's as nice as I can make it with in reason... I will not make it any bigger. I won't be able to get my spare tire out, or have trunk room, or have room for my amps of I go much bigger. Rebuilding a bigger box would defeat 2 of the 5 rules I laid out for myself on the very first post of this build log. My old YouTube channel : http://www.youtube.com/user/SwordLords1234?feature=mhee My old build log : http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/161872-96-accord-b2-sundown-sky-high-dc-power-re-re-build-for-heatwave/page-37 My New Build - http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/207041-2016-mazda-6-sql-build/ 2016 Mazda 6 Touring JL Fix 86 - OEM signal correction B2 prototype DSP 6to8 B2 Ref63 - 3 way active set 2 B2 Class H quattro's 1 B2 Zero.5R @.5 2 B2 HNv3 12 d2 B2 SLIP40 - Lithium in the trunk Northstar Group 35 under the hood 100ft 2/0 welding cable 30ft 4ga welding cable 20ft 8ga welding cable All stinger OFC speaker wire Soundrive custom RCA's Tons of attention to detail.... Can it be perfect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swordlordboy1234 Posted August 7, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2014 Really enjoy my HDD 12's in da trunk. 150@36hz meter on the dash and 149.1@31hz. They have a better "top end" than my zv4's did but still dig plenty low. Murphy did email me back. He said with my box and port size that I need to give up hope for linear spiders and a X/HD type drivers (long linear throw) that I need to move to strong motors and proper progressive spider packs unless I want to rebuild my box and redo my install. Just eyeballing, he's right. What were your box specs again? 3.8 tuned to 32 with 11sq in of port The port could be a little bigger And box for that matter. Rebuild that bish! Just extend it towards the rear, that way it has the same width and everything will still fit on it. No spare tire access. I'd have much less room for storage in my trunk. I can't match robins quality with the kerfed center port or paint. Id have to rebuild all my beauty panels. You would be shocked at how perfect I accidentally made the depth of the box (spare tire access, and how much perfectly fits in the area) My old YouTube channel : http://www.youtube.com/user/SwordLords1234?feature=mhee My old build log : http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/161872-96-accord-b2-sundown-sky-high-dc-power-re-re-build-for-heatwave/page-37 My New Build - http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/207041-2016-mazda-6-sql-build/ 2016 Mazda 6 Touring JL Fix 86 - OEM signal correction B2 prototype DSP 6to8 B2 Ref63 - 3 way active set 2 B2 Class H quattro's 1 B2 Zero.5R @.5 2 B2 HNv3 12 d2 B2 SLIP40 - Lithium in the trunk Northstar Group 35 under the hood 100ft 2/0 welding cable 30ft 4ga welding cable 20ft 8ga welding cable All stinger OFC speaker wire Soundrive custom RCA's Tons of attention to detail.... Can it be perfect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swordlordboy1234 Posted August 7, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2014 Shit I didn't realize it was that small, my xfls were in 2.4 each tuned to 33 with 15.4 sq in per cube, I told you to go bigger on the box lol I would if I could reasonably. Next car I'll put more thought into it. But with the amount of thought and planning I've out into this build and I'm talking about even more.... Is kinda scary. My old YouTube channel : http://www.youtube.com/user/SwordLords1234?feature=mhee My old build log : http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/161872-96-accord-b2-sundown-sky-high-dc-power-re-re-build-for-heatwave/page-37 My New Build - http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/207041-2016-mazda-6-sql-build/ 2016 Mazda 6 Touring JL Fix 86 - OEM signal correction B2 prototype DSP 6to8 B2 Ref63 - 3 way active set 2 B2 Class H quattro's 1 B2 Zero.5R @.5 2 B2 HNv3 12 d2 B2 SLIP40 - Lithium in the trunk Northstar Group 35 under the hood 100ft 2/0 welding cable 30ft 4ga welding cable 20ft 8ga welding cable All stinger OFC speaker wire Soundrive custom RCA's Tons of attention to detail.... Can it be perfect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gckless Posted August 7, 2014 Report Share Posted August 7, 2014 The port has added efficiency with the kerfs so it's no where near as bad as you guys think. It's just not good for any dd woofers or woofers with 60mm of Xmax like sundown mega roll subs. There are plenty of subs that will be perfect for my application especially if I custom build them. Its 110% not being rebuilt. It's as big as it can be and there is no way I could match robins quality. Plus having to re do my seal off... AGAIN... all my carpeting... AGAIN... all my beauty panels .. AGAIN. I don't have that time or patience at this point in my life to uninstall.... Rebuild everything, attempt to even make it half as nice as it is, and reinstall. Box stays. The mission is to find the perfect subs for the box instead of building a box that works with the subs I have. Like I said, it's already as good as it's getting with my given space and it's as nice as I can make it with in reason... I will not make it any bigger. I won't be able to get my spare tire out, or have trunk room, or have room for my amps of I go much bigger. Rebuilding a bigger box would defeat 2 of the 5 rules I laid out for myself on the very first post of this build log. Does it have internal kerfs? Those external kerfs don't add as much efficiency as everyone thinks. "Clipping" is the biggest forum boner now. It's like witchcraft... it automatically explains just about everything people don't understand. My build log: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/200295-gckless-2011-chevrolet-impala/ High resolution photos: Gilbert Kless Photography Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcarter1885 Posted August 7, 2014 Report Share Posted August 7, 2014 Those DSS Ethos like small enclosures, Q recommends 1.5 cubic feet for a 12" sub. Nav-TV Zen V Audio Interface AudioControl DM-608 (2) Stevens Audio Neo-Comp Full-Size Horns (4) Faital Pro 6PR160 6.5" AudioControl LC-6.1200 (1) Fi Neo 4.7 15" D2 in 3.74 Cubic Feet @ 27.70 Hz Ampere Audio AA3800.1 Odyssey ODP-AGM48 Battery (Starting) Odyssey ODX-AGM31 Battery (Trunk) Big 3 - 2\0 Welding Cable, KnuKonceptz Speaker Wire & 1/0 Power Cable, NVX RCAs, Second Skin (Speaker Tweaker Pads, Damplifier Pro Mat), Diode Dynamics LEDs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swordlordboy1234 Posted August 7, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2014 The port has added efficiency with the kerfs so it's no where near as bad as you guys think. It's just not good for any dd woofers or woofers with 60mm of Xmax like sundown mega roll subs. There are plenty of subs that will be perfect for my application especially if I custom build them. Its 110% not being rebuilt. It's as big as it can be and there is no way I could match robins quality. Plus having to re do my seal off... AGAIN... all my carpeting... AGAIN... all my beauty panels .. AGAIN. I don't have that time or patience at this point in my life to uninstall.... Rebuild everything, attempt to even make it half as nice as it is, and reinstall. Box stays. The mission is to find the perfect subs for the box instead of building a box that works with the subs I have. Like I said, it's already as good as it's getting with my given space and it's as nice as I can make it with in reason... I will not make it any bigger. I won't be able to get my spare tire out, or have trunk room, or have room for my amps of I go much bigger. Rebuilding a bigger box would defeat 2 of the 5 rules I laid out for myself on the very first post of this build log. Does it have internal kerfs? Those external kerfs don't add as much efficiency as everyone thinks. Internal port round overs. Official kerfs are only on the front. Back of the port has a double kerfed triangle... And on the port walls themselves there is a 1.5 inch round over. The port wall is only .75 inches thick... But there is a small section of the port wall before the port begins (about 2 inches thick) that makes for a bigger round over at the start of the port. My old YouTube channel : http://www.youtube.com/user/SwordLords1234?feature=mhee My old build log : http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/161872-96-accord-b2-sundown-sky-high-dc-power-re-re-build-for-heatwave/page-37 My New Build - http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/207041-2016-mazda-6-sql-build/ 2016 Mazda 6 Touring JL Fix 86 - OEM signal correction B2 prototype DSP 6to8 B2 Ref63 - 3 way active set 2 B2 Class H quattro's 1 B2 Zero.5R @.5 2 B2 HNv3 12 d2 B2 SLIP40 - Lithium in the trunk Northstar Group 35 under the hood 100ft 2/0 welding cable 30ft 4ga welding cable 20ft 8ga welding cable All stinger OFC speaker wire Soundrive custom RCA's Tons of attention to detail.... Can it be perfect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wood Posted August 7, 2014 Report Share Posted August 7, 2014 Those DSS Ethos like small enclosures, Q recommends 1.5 cubic feet for a 12" sub. They like a lot of port though! 2011 Nissan Altima aka Red Ruby HEADUNIT: Pioneer AVH X2700BS ELECTRICAL: -Singer 230a -Northstar gr34 -(2) Northstar SMS220 w/ Custom Terminals from 12V Metalworkz -100% Welding Cable FRONT STAGE:-(2 Sets) Hertz HSK165 -Hertz HSK130 -Ampere Audio 125.4 SUB STAGE: -(3) Sundown Audio SA REV2 12's -Ampere Audio 3800.1 V2 MISC (NON AUDIO RELATED): -Interior & Exterior Lights LED -Gloss Black Roof (PAINTED) -15% Front, 5% Rear Tint -Roof Spoiler -20" TSW Snettertons (20x8.5 front, 20x10 rear) -Custom Projector Retrofit (FX-R 3.0, 6.5k HID, Morimoto Mini H1 (faux projector), Quad Starry Night Halos) ----- COMING SOON!! -Aftermarket Fog Lights -Custom Painted Engine Covers My Build Log: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/169869-woods-2011-altima-aka-red-ruby-new-video-more-updates/page-109 Retrofit Build Log: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/185787-hid-projector-retrofitting-diy-by-wood/#entry2765346 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundstream15 Posted August 7, 2014 Report Share Posted August 7, 2014 Dc XL 12s?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gckless Posted August 7, 2014 Report Share Posted August 7, 2014 XLs or Zs would probably be ok in the box size, but then the port is fairly small. Might work for ya though. "Clipping" is the biggest forum boner now. It's like witchcraft... it automatically explains just about everything people don't understand. My build log: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/200295-gckless-2011-chevrolet-impala/ High resolution photos: Gilbert Kless Photography Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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