Lbox88 Posted May 23, 2013 Report Share Posted May 23, 2013 (edited) Yes, but it is an amp that claims over 15k.... lol, just at fucking 390V lol even if tony wanted to test it hed have to wire 30 batteries in series and an additional 30 in parallel Just trying to a little lol EDIT: Trying to stir the pot a little bit is what I'm getting at. Me+tired+bored at work is not a good mix. Edited May 23, 2013 by Lbox88 1 Quote UBL | Build Log Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HunterJohnson Posted May 23, 2013 Report Share Posted May 23, 2013 ur image isnt working lobox! Quote Scion tC SQ BuildiPad mini, lots of fabrication, daily drivenFord Explorer C Pillar Wall Build Just a cheap car to destroy with bass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyD'Amore Posted May 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2013 Can you prove this amp wrong? http://www.creativecaraudio.com/StoreFrontProfiles/DeluxeSFItemDetail.aspx?sid=1&sfid=199177&c=905044&i=290673096 Zapco ZX 26KD Mono, 1 ohm: 1 x 14500 Watts (12 volts) Mono, 1 ohm: 1 x 20000 Watts (14.4 volts) Mono, 1 ohm: 1 x 22000 Watts (16 volts) T.H.D. + Noise: <1% @ 1 ohms. In all fairness to this amplifier, I've never tested one so can't say for sure. Although, basic math would suggest it isn't possible. From their published data: 20kw @ 14.4V with 86% eff. = 20,000 / .86 = 23,255 watts input / 14.4V = 1615 Amps DC. / Three 0 AWG = 538A per 0 AWG. Maybe possible, sounds a little sketchy. But the devil is in the details. That efficency rating is at 4 ohms. At 1 ohm it will be around 65%. They don't mention that. Now doing the same math with real numbers we see that we would need 2136A at 14.4V. This isn't happening on 3 runs of 1/0. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purplehaze Posted May 23, 2013 Report Share Posted May 23, 2013 (edited) Yes, but it is an amp that claims over 15k.... lol, just at fucking 390V Where do you see that? I didn't see anything like that. Here are the specs they listed. Features S80 Number of Channels 1 RMS Power at 0.5 Ohm 60.370 Watts @ 226V RMS Power at 0.8 Ohm 84.900 Watts @ 340V RMS Power at 1 Ohm 30.190 Watts @ 226V RMS Power at 2 Ohm 33.960 Watts @ 340V / 15.090 Watts @ 226V RMS Power at 4 Ohm 16.980 Watts @ 340V Supply Voltage 390V Frequency Response 10 Hz ~ 3,5KHz Crossover Low Pass 50 Hz ~ 3,5KHz Signal to Noise > 90 dB Harmonic Distortion < 0,9 % THD Input Sensitivity 0,2V Input Impedance 20K Ohms Impedance Output 0,8 OHM - 27 Bat. -340V / 0,5 Ohm - 18 Bat - 226V Bat. Automotive / Musical Signal 70A Bat. Stationary / Musical Signal 130A Consumption with Signal Bass 1,8 ~ 260A Subsonic Filter 10Hz - 80 Hz Dimensions (H x W x D) mm 77 x 500 x 491 Weight Kg 12 Kg It says 16.xx watts, not 16K watts.... Edited May 23, 2013 by Purplehaze Quote Kickin' Cruiser Seller Feedback Stage 3 Dash, Door Panels,4th Order wall 4 - 15'son a DC 5.0K 2 DC 5.0K'sSolo X 15 (v.2) Sub Build Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newls1 Posted May 23, 2013 Report Share Posted May 23, 2013 Not picking on any particular brands, though I may call attention to some to show an example. Lying about your product bugs me, but when they claim to be over 15kW things get a bit personal for me. (if you know me you know why) I stumbled on a great example this morning http://www.wooferwarehouse.com/Stetsom-14K2E-Amplifier--1-Ohm-12V_p_120.html They claim 16,200 Watts at 13.8V. I can't wait for someone to dyno one of these, I'm so tried of hearing numbers like 15k, 20k, 25k thrown around like it's no big deal. I am totally confident that there is only 1 mobile audio amplifier that can play music that makes 15k+ on 13.8V. Unfortunatly in the mobile audio world today, "innocent until proven guilty" doesn't apply. The game has changed, the tape measure is here. You are guilty until provent innocent. Dyno it. Prove it. Quote I love my staffie So anti FACEBOOK it isn't even funny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CortezDTV Posted May 23, 2013 Report Share Posted May 23, 2013 Can you prove this amp wrong? http://www.creativecaraudio.com/StoreFrontProfiles/DeluxeSFItemDetail.aspx?sid=1&sfid=199177&c=905044&i=290673096 Zapco ZX 26KD Mono, 1 ohm: 1 x 14500 Watts (12 volts) Mono, 1 ohm: 1 x 20000 Watts (14.4 volts) Mono, 1 ohm: 1 x 22000 Watts (16 volts) T.H.D. + Noise: <1% @ 1 ohms. In all fairness to this amplifier, I've never tested one so can't say for sure. Although, basic math would suggest it isn't possible. From their published data: 20kw @ 14.4V with 86% eff. = 20,000 / .86 = 23,255 watts input / 14.4V = 1615 Amps DC. / Three 0 AWG = 538A per 0 AWG. Maybe possible, sounds a little sketchy. But the devil is in the details. That efficency rating is at 4 ohms. At 1 ohm it will be around 65%. They don't mention that. Now doing the same math with real numbers we see that we would need 2136A at 14.4V. This isn't happening on 3 runs of 1/0. It gets better than that Zapco says its current consumption is only 600 amps Don't get me wrong but come on 600 amp draw and producing 14k 1 Quote SCSB Santa Cruz Speaker Box Build logs: Daily Driver Lemon Marquis 2 american bass 750.1s 350.4 on 14 focal 6.5s sq 945 on 4 hertz tweeters Mystery subs http://www.stevemead...__fromsearch__1 The Mustang 'dubbed' Shirley the project from bullet holes to badass http://www.stevemead...cond-skin-time/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega5002 Posted May 23, 2013 Report Share Posted May 23, 2013 here's another pic 1 Quote 2003 Kia Sorento Team Subsonic LowsTeam Bassin' on a Budget2016 Rebuild Under Construction Best score: 150.2 at 40hz (3k, 2 Custom HDC3 15's) Usaci style(door open, in the kick) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotdog Posted May 23, 2013 Report Share Posted May 23, 2013 start with SMD partners? Quote (NEW) 2004 F-150 Build Log -->http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/192208-hotdogs-f-150-build-log/ 2003 Mercury Mountaineer Build Log --> http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/114380-hotdogs-2003-mountaineer-build-log-20-removed/page__gopid__1602379#entry1602379 2008 Equinox Build Log --> http://www.stevemead...g/#entry1475764 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyD'Amore Posted May 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2013 here's another pic ah..3 1/0awg per "1/2" of the amplifier. That makes it a little more believable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HunterJohnson Posted May 23, 2013 Report Share Posted May 23, 2013 damn 6 1/0 inputs crazyyyyy. btw tony how could you test the stetsom, since it isnt a clean signal? Quote Scion tC SQ BuildiPad mini, lots of fabrication, daily drivenFord Explorer C Pillar Wall Build Just a cheap car to destroy with bass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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