TonyD'Amore Posted August 1, 2013 Report Share Posted August 1, 2013 I've been summoned. LOL. Ok guys its like this: if you have 1 bucket that holds 2 gallons, and another bucket that holds 1 gallon, how many buckets do you have? Seriously though, lets consider the following example: Amplifier 1 can put out 80V and 80Amps (1 ohm load) (80/80=1) Amplifier 2 can put out 80V and 80Amps (1 ohm load) (80/80=1) If we "strap" them we now have 160 Volts. We know the maximum current either amplifier can supply is 80Amps. Therefore, if the amps are in series (strapped, bridged, whatever you want to call it) the final load would have to be 2 ohms since 160V/80A = 2 ohms. So unstrapped we have 80V * 80A = 6400 watts from Amplifier 1, and the same thing for amplifier 2 so 6400 + 6400 = 12,800W. Strapped we have 160V * 80A = 12,800 Watts. Same total power, same current thru the coils, same current from each amplifier. Same Same. AMI, I understand what you are saying and agree with you that higher voltage and lower current is always the most efficient way to do something whether it is driving coils or making toast in a toaster. However, as the example shows, when not strapped the coils have 80 amps going through them. When strapped the COIL (two in series = 1 big one) has 80 amps going through it. Same current. Same heat. The equations for heat are amps * amps * impedance. So for two independent coils = 80 * 80 * 1 = 6400. * 2 coils = 12,800. For one big coil = 80 * 80 * 2 = 12,800. Same same Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyblack76 Posted August 1, 2013 Report Share Posted August 1, 2013 LOL thanks TD, I was worried to say i linked you to this, in case "other things" had to take over, importance wise. Thanks bro. Stay gold my friend.. : ) OH, and thanks for the "other" issue.. lol shit... later SMD SUPER SELLER The Burban Build Blazer Build sold Acura trunk build sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CleanSierra Posted August 1, 2013 Report Share Posted August 1, 2013 That's the one of the simplest explanations I've ever seen from Tony, and I'm so thankful. I am happy to understand now. The famous Albert Einstein line that is my favorite: "If you can NOT explain something simply, you don't understand it well enough" Im not the one you want to try to troll. Just a fyi for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyblack76 Posted August 1, 2013 Report Share Posted August 1, 2013 WEll??? who wants waffles?? SMD SUPER SELLER The Burban Build Blazer Build sold Acura trunk build sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooter99 Posted August 1, 2013 Report Share Posted August 1, 2013 MIND = BLOWN! Facebook Page: S99Creations 2006 F250 Lariat Build Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMI CUSTOMS Posted August 1, 2013 Report Share Posted August 1, 2013 Well shit Tony D lol you do explain stuff so much better then me Why then in the real world when I clamp the output, the current is different from seperate to strapped? The math on paper works out to double voltage, same current, just did it like 5 times and was like well shit wtf is going on.... Plus I see a gain from strapped to separate db wise too.... TEAM SOUNDQUBED -- TEAM SOUTH TEAM S.O.B. - Founder & Captain 3x Streetbeat World Record Holder 2017 MWSPL 1st place Mayhem & 4th Xtreme 4 2016 MWSPL 1st place Mayhem/2nd Adv 4/2nd Xtreme 4 2015 MWSPL 2nd place Mayhem & 4th Xtreme 4 2014 USACI 2nd place Streetbeat 5 - 162.6 db 2014 MWSPL 2nd place Xtreme 4 - 144.9 db 2013 USACI 1st place Streetbeat 4 - 161.9 db 2013 USACI 1st place Street Q+ - 162.8 db 2013 MWSPL 3rd Kaos2 & 4th Xtreme 4 2011 USACI 2nd place MOD 1001-2k - 160.0 db 2011 MWSPL 4th place: Adv3 - 157.8 db, Kaos2 - 150s db, Xtreme4 - 140s db 2010 ARSPL 1st place 501-750 - 160.3 db Arkansas loudest Best score to date 164.4 db - Termlab Outlaw Streetbeat 4 - 161.9 db Streetbeat 5 - 162.6 db MWSPL on Dash Legal door open (Music) - 162.5 db Sealed on dash Legal (Music) - 161.1 db - Termlab THE BLACK NASTY CURRENT BUILD & FAB The Black Nasty (6) 15 Rebuild Log 2012 (4) 15 Walled Sierra Build Log Evo X build log Facebook page The Black Nasty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emmet Posted August 1, 2013 Report Share Posted August 1, 2013 Well this was a cool thread to have a read through. Drinks to all you knowledgeable people. i shook this one kids hand and it just folded in mine. long story short i fucked his girlfriendso.. yeah.. You want this to happen to you? Give decent handshakes people. I was gifted with an innate ability to distribute wholesale ass beatings in a timely and orderly fashion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoove Posted August 1, 2013 Report Share Posted August 1, 2013 If Tony D has the power at his shop I would gladly drive to his shop which is 3 miles from my house with 2 T20001BD's and a BD sync cable for this test to be done on an AD-1. 2 Team Fi 15's v1 2 DD M5's 970amps of Alt 6th order blowthroughThe truck Blowthrough build : http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/155555-smooves-1996-chevy-ext-cab-c1500-slow-build/The 350z build : http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/170694-smooves-2003-nissan-350z/ My FB page https://www.facebook.com/pages/Smooves-Car-Audio-and-performance/719746144805343 Team Fi Audio http://www.ficaraudio.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMI CUSTOMS Posted August 2, 2013 Report Share Posted August 2, 2013 Okay had a "light bulb" moment thanks guys on facebook. I am a man so I can admit when I am wrong, had error in my math and testing, My thinking was correct as Tony mentioned he agreed with, just incorrect math and testing on my part. So my new arguement is how else would you wire 3 subs to 2 amps? Facepalm moment fawk!!!! TEAM SOUNDQUBED -- TEAM SOUTH TEAM S.O.B. - Founder & Captain 3x Streetbeat World Record Holder 2017 MWSPL 1st place Mayhem & 4th Xtreme 4 2016 MWSPL 1st place Mayhem/2nd Adv 4/2nd Xtreme 4 2015 MWSPL 2nd place Mayhem & 4th Xtreme 4 2014 USACI 2nd place Streetbeat 5 - 162.6 db 2014 MWSPL 2nd place Xtreme 4 - 144.9 db 2013 USACI 1st place Streetbeat 4 - 161.9 db 2013 USACI 1st place Street Q+ - 162.8 db 2013 MWSPL 3rd Kaos2 & 4th Xtreme 4 2011 USACI 2nd place MOD 1001-2k - 160.0 db 2011 MWSPL 4th place: Adv3 - 157.8 db, Kaos2 - 150s db, Xtreme4 - 140s db 2010 ARSPL 1st place 501-750 - 160.3 db Arkansas loudest Best score to date 164.4 db - Termlab Outlaw Streetbeat 4 - 161.9 db Streetbeat 5 - 162.6 db MWSPL on Dash Legal door open (Music) - 162.5 db Sealed on dash Legal (Music) - 161.1 db - Termlab THE BLACK NASTY CURRENT BUILD & FAB The Black Nasty (6) 15 Rebuild Log 2012 (4) 15 Walled Sierra Build Log Evo X build log Facebook page The Black Nasty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooter99 Posted August 2, 2013 Report Share Posted August 2, 2013 Takes a man to admit his mistakes. I applaud you sir! Facebook Page: S99Creations 2006 F250 Lariat Build Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.