satish1015 Posted September 5, 2013 Report Posted September 5, 2013 Hi guys, I've been installing my systems in the past by myself. However they were a little messy and with my bmw i want a clean install so i decided i'd take it to a shop. Before I go tho, I'd like to have a clear idea of what i want, which is deep clean bass. I have two 12 inch dc lvl 4's. Previously I've had ported boxes, which i liked. But i like the look of the three chamber like however, I will go with whichever sounds better.. any thoughts or opinions people? 2008 BMW 550i M Sport Build coming soon! 2000 Volvo s40 1.9TPioneer DVD navigation head unitO2 audio performance mid range speakers2 Crescendo PWX-6 Pro Mid Range Speakers2 Crescendo PWX-8 Pro Mid Range Speakers4 Selenium ST200 Super TweetersHifonics ZRX2000.4 Amplifier2- 12 inch DC Audio Level 4 m2Hifonics Brutus BXI-1610D Amplifier2 KinetiK HC1400R- Secondary BatteriesKinetik HC600- Secondary BatteryKnukonceptz 1/0 gauge big 3 upgrade
satish1015 Posted September 5, 2013 Author Report Posted September 5, 2013 Also i see from the work that the shop does, that it seems like they lean more towards the three chamber which is why i looked at those two options 2008 BMW 550i M Sport Build coming soon! 2000 Volvo s40 1.9TPioneer DVD navigation head unitO2 audio performance mid range speakers2 Crescendo PWX-6 Pro Mid Range Speakers2 Crescendo PWX-8 Pro Mid Range Speakers4 Selenium ST200 Super TweetersHifonics ZRX2000.4 Amplifier2- 12 inch DC Audio Level 4 m2Hifonics Brutus BXI-1610D Amplifier2 KinetiK HC1400R- Secondary BatteriesKinetik HC600- Secondary BatteryKnukonceptz 1/0 gauge big 3 upgrade
Sergeant_Skyrim Posted September 5, 2013 Report Posted September 5, 2013 The one you posted up there is a 4th order bandpass. Except that there are 2 different sealed sections instead of one like you normally see. I can't speak on ported vs. 4th order as I haven't done one yet, but maybe there are some others who will share their thoughts Edit: The 4th order bandpass kinda acts like a sealed and a ported box in 1, in a sense. You get the lows from the sealed section, and then the ported section is tuned higher (50hz or so for example) to give you your higher bass Build in progress
Joe X Posted September 5, 2013 Report Posted September 5, 2013 You need a lot of space for that box so maybe it won't fit and a front stage that can play the deeper mid bass for better results, if it sounds nice or not it depends on how is setup, the high ratio ones are aimed towards output, who knows if you will like that, really peaky around tuning frequency, better get a demo from the shop.
95neon_thumper82 Posted September 6, 2013 Report Posted September 6, 2013 for SQ you'll likely want a nice sealed box to keep it tight and punchy. I'd personally go with the ported though... very nice tradr off between spl and sq. the 4th order bandpass idea... well I'd say its probably not SQ friendly. stick with ported. <img src=http://i1332.photobucket.com/albums/w610/beastly666bassboy/IMG_9611192581855_zps9b9b76be.jpg border=0 alt= height="75" width="800"> Growing old is necessary... growing up is an option! Have fun or you might as well fall into a 6 foot deep hole. Its much easier to be smart and act stupid then it is to be stupid and act smart! You're only limited by your imagination! Stop limiting yourself! Optima yellow top6 guage cableJVC KD S36 headunitPower acoustik 1600w 750w rms @2 ohmsTwo MTX thunder 7000 10"sSealed box @4.04 ft^3Mojo Mat in the trunk Coming soon:1/0 awg cablebig 3... in 6 gauge(till i can get the money for 0)planet audio Crossover.2- 3.5's for the front.2- 6.5's for the doors2- 6x9's for the rear3- MB Quartz amps to power it all.1- 6" aeroport...soon! <p>My Log!
satish1015 Posted September 7, 2013 Author Report Posted September 7, 2013 I think i'll definitely need to hear a demo. I may just stick with the ported tho. I'm trying to find a video but no one seems to have any labeled 4th order 2008 BMW 550i M Sport Build coming soon! 2000 Volvo s40 1.9TPioneer DVD navigation head unitO2 audio performance mid range speakers2 Crescendo PWX-6 Pro Mid Range Speakers2 Crescendo PWX-8 Pro Mid Range Speakers4 Selenium ST200 Super TweetersHifonics ZRX2000.4 Amplifier2- 12 inch DC Audio Level 4 m2Hifonics Brutus BXI-1610D Amplifier2 KinetiK HC1400R- Secondary BatteriesKinetik HC600- Secondary BatteryKnukonceptz 1/0 gauge big 3 upgrade
john253a Posted September 7, 2013 Report Posted September 7, 2013 for SQ you'll likely want a nice sealed box to keep it tight and punchy. I'd personally go with the ported though... very nice tradr off between spl and sq. the 4th order bandpass idea... well I'd say its probably not SQ friendly. stick with ported. you may want to sit back and learn a bit more more before giving wrong or incorrect info, the specs of the subs will determine weather the sub will perform better in sealed or ported so a high quality "sq known" sub in the wrong style box will not reproduce the quality required weather it be sealed or ported yes a sealed box with a sub suited for seal would be a easy sub to install and get right in an "sq" install where as a ported box if you tune too high or too low you will lose the freq range and get higher or lower db's at different freq, where as your after a flater response i am no expert on sq, as my style of sq v's others is very different, i like to use quality equipment and keep it very simply, 1 or 2 subs, 1 speaker set per seat in car, and under 1500rms on the entire system
ALCW5 Posted September 14, 2013 Report Posted September 14, 2013 Theres a lot a very loud good 4ths man just make sure you get a very well calculated design , im planning on building a walled 4th designed by BHE
satish1015 Posted December 26, 2013 Author Report Posted December 26, 2013 so a little update on this, i passed by the shop while I was at work, but wasn't able to stay long. I spoke to the owner who told me they generally do 4th order bandpass boxes.. i told him I have 2 DC 12's and he told me that he'd recommend only using one in the 4th order that they build because the boxes are big and if they accommodate for 2, they would need to use the whole trunk... I'm not sure how i feel about this because i like 2 12's!! what do you guys think? 2008 BMW 550i M Sport Build coming soon! 2000 Volvo s40 1.9TPioneer DVD navigation head unitO2 audio performance mid range speakers2 Crescendo PWX-6 Pro Mid Range Speakers2 Crescendo PWX-8 Pro Mid Range Speakers4 Selenium ST200 Super TweetersHifonics ZRX2000.4 Amplifier2- 12 inch DC Audio Level 4 m2Hifonics Brutus BXI-1610D Amplifier2 KinetiK HC1400R- Secondary BatteriesKinetik HC600- Secondary BatteryKnukonceptz 1/0 gauge big 3 upgrade
TaylorFade Posted December 26, 2013 Report Posted December 26, 2013 You're better off with a ported for both. Unless you need like, a ski pass blowthrough or something. Side note... I find it interesting that a shop would "generally" do bandpass boxes.
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