Jay L. Posted May 3, 2014 Report Share Posted May 3, 2014 I purchased a few of these awhile ago with the intention to solder them. Since then, I got a 16 ton crimper. I crimped one on some 1/0 Stinger ofc and it pulled out pretty easily. I contacted who I purchased them from asking if I could exchange them for solid lugs, without the split. I was told that these are fine to crimp. I sent this pic to be sure that he knew which lug I was talking about.He said they crimp fine. Since then I've done 2 runs, fuse blocks, all grounds, buss bars. Basically, the entire charging system, crimping these "split" lugs. When crimping these lugs on the new wire, which is not Stinger, I couldn't pull them apart. I'm still not convinced they will last, any thoughts anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowDrifter Posted May 3, 2014 Report Share Posted May 3, 2014 No, not properlySolder them IMO. Long story short: Crimping cold welds AKA fuses similar metals. I've tested this several times, copper and brass lugs don't fuse - they come apart. ~~~~~~~~SAY NO TO PHOTOBUCKET~~~~~~~~ Snow's DD-1 tracks here: https://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/167433-snows-dd-1-tracks/ My take on OFC vs CCA: https://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/110381-things-that-piss-you-off-in-the-car-audio-world/?do=findComment&comment=2461444 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Schenk Posted May 3, 2014 Report Share Posted May 3, 2014 I would slowly but surely change em out for the shca lugz thats what I am going to do. On 3/28/2014 at 4:22 PM, KyLar96 said: Its all about the music anyway..... Do a proper install, something your happy with, Fuck everyone else...... improve in time, where you can..... its not rocket science... Tiburon build //www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/174059-97-hyundai-tiburon-build-from-ramming-to-slamming-slow-5k-build/ 2000 Mountaineer build http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/186736-2000-mountaineer-build-from-ramming-to-slamming-part-iislow-5k-builddc-audio-americanbassxspowersingerarcaudiostingershcavideo-on-pg7/ 2000 Mercury Mountaineer: Electrical:Singer 360 hairpin powdercoated white alt, Big 4 double run 1/0 SHCA OFC, 4 runs 1/0 OFC SHCA, limitless 70ah, HU: Pioneer deh80prs interiors: Skar sk85.4 on sb acoustics neo dome tweeters 2 Mmats sq4100s on 4 silver flute 8s(4ohm) SUB Stage: 3 DC5K [email protected] on 6 ascendant audio mayhem 12s d1.4s fully loaded Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phaeton Posted May 3, 2014 Report Share Posted May 3, 2014 i always used copper lugs and filled it full of solder and stuck my wire in there. Im not a big fan of crimping. But it should be fine, Is there anything different about your stinger wire compared to your other wire? 1997 subaru legacy outback Four 15's in a almost wall Rockford Fosgate t2500-1bdcp Rockford Fosgate T400-4 on tweets Rockford Fosgate T400-4 on highs Rockford Fosgate T400-2 on midrange Rockford Fosgate T400-2 on midbass Optima Yellow top batteries 270A Singer alt (working on a bracket for a second) Lots of Second Skin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay L. Posted May 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 3, 2014 Pretty much what I figured...the new wire is a little bigger. I had to spread these open a bit to get the wire in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingsuv Posted May 3, 2014 Report Share Posted May 3, 2014 Split lugs are harder to crimp. You need to bring in one flap under the other then crimp. If done right you should have no issues with them. They won't look anywhere as nice as the others, but with a little shrink over the end, they will serve their need. This is something you can readdress later when time and or budget allows for it Designing, building, and shipping boxes. Yahoo IM - kingsuv00If the listening level is too loud, please inform the driver, so he can promptly pull over, and let you out. not many cars can get me to pluggin my ears but this one.......damn. I mean the first minute is ok but that thing just really starts digging deeper and deeper in your earhole till you cant stand it no more. Seems like it does it with relative ease....16 12's on 8 amps.........gotta love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowDrifter Posted May 3, 2014 Report Share Posted May 3, 2014 ^^Disagree Just because it may stay in place with a quick tug doesn't mean it's a good connection. I've tried that, crimped them with a 16 ton crimper with 0 gauge OFC wire. Wiggle it a bit and it comes out. Tried it a couple times with various crimp settings. Even getting it down to something a hair larger than a pencil. Same result. Conclusion I came to is because it's a mechanical connection - the lug is squeezing the wire, holding it in place vs. being fused with it. Those lugs are comparatively(vs an amp terminal or fuse holder that is designed to squeeze) thin, they can only "squeeze" so hard before they give. That's why I can wiggle them loose ~~~~~~~~SAY NO TO PHOTOBUCKET~~~~~~~~ Snow's DD-1 tracks here: https://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/167433-snows-dd-1-tracks/ My take on OFC vs CCA: https://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/110381-things-that-piss-you-off-in-the-car-audio-world/?do=findComment&comment=2461444 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowDrifter Posted May 3, 2014 Report Share Posted May 3, 2014 While on the subject... How are you crimping these anyway? Hammer? Vice grip? Hydraulic? ~~~~~~~~SAY NO TO PHOTOBUCKET~~~~~~~~ Snow's DD-1 tracks here: https://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/167433-snows-dd-1-tracks/ My take on OFC vs CCA: https://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/110381-things-that-piss-you-off-in-the-car-audio-world/?do=findComment&comment=2461444 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay L. Posted May 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 3, 2014 16 ton hydraulic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowDrifter Posted May 3, 2014 Report Share Posted May 3, 2014 Good deal Yeah man I think your best bet would be to grab some crimp terminals, cut, strip, and re-do. Shouldn't be *that* bad ~~~~~~~~SAY NO TO PHOTOBUCKET~~~~~~~~ Snow's DD-1 tracks here: https://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/167433-snows-dd-1-tracks/ My take on OFC vs CCA: https://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/110381-things-that-piss-you-off-in-the-car-audio-world/?do=findComment&comment=2461444 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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