Do you run individual remote wires or run 1 in series for multiple amps?

[Ahmed Johnson]

yep

[JeremyN]

Ill hook that to my pee hole..... and still take a nap.

When do we see the vid for that

[Quiet]

in a series circuit, if you disconnect a single part of it, the whole circuit stops right?

In a series circuit, the cable would eventually circle back to the power source on the opposite pole.

This is parallel. It's just the NEG ends are inside the amplifier (remote turn on goes to a relay coil inside, the other end which is connected to ground.)

[MrSkippyJ]

in a series circuit, if you disconnect a single part of it, the whole circuit stops right?

In a series circuit, the cable would eventually circle back to the power source on the opposite pole.

This is parallel. It's just the NEG ends are inside the amplifier (remote turn on goes to a relay coil inside, the other end which is connected to ground.)

This is what I thought too. Thanks for clearing it up.

And I mean I thought it was parallel, I have no idea how it all works.

[Souldrop]

It is parallel. Each amp is grounded hopefully to the same spot, so you can imagine a common ground in your illustrations. If the wire burns up you lose power to the amps afterwards because you have a break in the circuit. It would be like a DVC sub wired in parallel and an amp output wire burning up before it makes it to the subwoofer leads. Yeah, it will shut off the entire sub, but that doesn't mean the sub wasn't wired in parallel. You can also have a break if a VC burns up, you lose function of that VC, but still have the other. You really have to look at where the break is in the circuit to say why a component loses power. Kirchoffs laws are good to know

bottom line is a relay is a good idea once you start getting into 3+ remote on from the HU.

[MrSkippyJ]

It is parallel. Each amp is grounded hopefully to the same spot, so you can imagine a common ground in your illustrations. If the wire burns up you lose power to the amps afterwards because you have a break in the circuit. It would be like a DVC sub wired in parallel and an amp output wire burning up before it makes it to the subwoofer leads. Yeah, it will shut off the entire sub, but that doesn't mean the sub wasn't wired in parallel.

bottom line is a relay is a good idea once you start getting into 3+ remote on from the HU.

Right, but if you had 2 subs in parallel and one sub went bad, the other one would still play. If you had 2 subs in series and one blew, both would quit. If one amp stops working, the rest keep playing. Or if the relay inside the amp the remote wire is controlling goes bad, the other amps still work fine.

[Souldrop]

Yep, that's correct, except for any amps after the break. At that point you're cutting that sections of circuit off because of how it's wired.

All are still wired in parallel, but due to break between R4 and R3, resistors 1,2,&3 wont see power because the circuit is incomplete. Same could have happened between R2 and R3. In that case 1 and 2 wouldn't see power.

Sorry for shitty diagram. disregard tiny break keeping 4 from seeing a complete circuit. In a hurry and gotta go out and figure whats wrong with wife's chevette lol.

[MrSkippyJ]

not a break in the remote wire though, just a relay failure. all amps except the one with the bad relay would work

[Wood]

Series wiring indicates running pole to pole through... you are definitely not wiring + to -

If you hooked up 5 subs in a row but parallel, and the wires burned up between subs 1 and 2, you'd lose 2 3 4 and 5. Doesn't make it series.

wiring up drivers and wiring up amplifiers are to TOTALLY different things brother. can't compare the two.

drivers have a separate ground from the chassis, amplifiers do not ...

It's still electricity. You are not connecting these in series if it's + to + to +

It would be series if it were + on one end to - on the other. The negative ends are all connected together (the internal relay inside the amp uses a coil wired to both + and - so it is indeed a circuit)

+ + +

- - -

* parallel

+ - + - + - + - +

^ series

Not series

Would have to use the amp ground to the next remote for it to be series.

It parrellel

Answer this question to yourself, will the amp power on with just a remote wire and no ground?

With that in mind, can you conclude that the board would have a path to ground itself internally thru the ground input terminal to complete its circuit to tell the amp to turn on?

Just because there is no external ground doesn't mean the board itself doesn't use the ground internally, which it does.... which makes it a series!

You just explained why it's parallel, bro.

I can see why you'd make the mistake, though. The topology resembles series topology except that the wires are connected at the terminals, unlike true series where the + on one unit would connect to the - of the next unit.

Think of it like this, if it were truly series, 3 amps would split the turn on voltage, for about 4 volts each, and nothing would turn on.

It is parallel. Each amp is grounded hopefully to the same spot, so you can imagine a common ground in your illustrations. If the wire burns up you lose power to the amps afterwards because you have a break in the circuit. It would be like a DVC sub wired in parallel and an amp output wire burning up before it makes it to the subwoofer leads. Yeah, it will shut off the entire sub, but that doesn't mean the sub wasn't wired in parallel. You can also have a break if a VC burns up, you lose function of that VC, but still have the other. You really have to look at where the break is in the circuit to say why a component loses power. Kirchoffs laws are good to know

bottom line is a relay is a good idea once you start getting into 3+ remote on from the HU.

There would need to be a negative from the source (Headunit) in order for it to be parallel... therefore the remote wire runs into the relay on the circuit board that grounds itself out.

(+) to (-)

[MrSkippyJ]

they do share a common ground though.