n8ball2013 Posted March 25, 2015 Report Share Posted March 25, 2015 Hexibase is an idiot THERE IS NO BUILD LOG! 1998 Chevy Silverado ext cab Alpine CDA-9887 4 Team Fi 15s 2 Ampere Audio TFE 8.0 2 Ampere Audio 150.4 3 Digital Designs CS6.5 component sets Dual Mechman 370XP Elite alternators inbound! 8 XS Power d3400 6 XS power d680 Second Skin Stinger Tsunami Wiring Sky High A Real Voltmeter not a piece of shit stinger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
audiofanaticz Posted March 25, 2015 Report Share Posted March 25, 2015 because crazy boxes on youtube are always better...... LOL As others have said, 6th orders are a lot of work, there is no simple design that will get your max desired results (frequency range, or spl). Ive had my 6th order playing for about 8 months now, and Im still screwing with the port sizes and length trying to find the best.It sounds good currently, but I think I could be just as loud if not louder with a flat wall at this point. Some of the best bandpass enclosures doing big numbers and have a flat response are done by Scott Bowman (jeefworks), robin butler (BHE), and Mike Singer. If I would have anyone do a design for me, it be one of them guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowDrifter Posted March 25, 2015 Report Share Posted March 25, 2015 FWIW here's a 6th a team mate of mine did. It has a STUPID bandwidth. Below 20 all the way up into the high 50s ~~~~~~~~SAY NO TO PHOTOBUCKET~~~~~~~~ Snow's DD-1 tracks here: https://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/167433-snows-dd-1-tracks/ My take on OFC vs CCA: https://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/110381-things-that-piss-you-off-in-the-car-audio-world/?do=findComment&comment=2461444 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeepAndBassXJ Posted March 25, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2015 Hexibase is an idiot That may be true but he designed the box I'm using now and it kicks ass as far as what it's target was. Its just not cutting it now that I have different needs lol. YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/JeepAndBass Website: https://www.jeepandbass.com/ My Jeep: 157.3dB @26hz Drag Style 162.3dB @36Hz Outlaw 160.7db @35hz Headrest My Honda: 155.4dB Drag Style 158.0db Outlaw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeepAndBassXJ Posted March 25, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2015 If you are hell-bent on building a 6th order bandpass box, it certainly can be done, but to do it "right" is going to take some effort. Are the subs you have broke in yet? If they are you could buy a DATS and measure their T/S parameters. With that info it would be possible to at least begin coming up with a design. If they aren't broke in yet, it would be a waste to measure them since the parameters shift so much. Once you have the T/S parameters you would be able to tell if your subs are appropriate for a 6th order BP or not. Not all subs will work well with that alignment. Like khinds94 said, designed a ported box with a lower tune and possible some other tweaks should accomplish what you are looking for. They are well broke in, but the DATS is expensive! They work well in a 4th but like you said I need to know if they will actually work in a 6th or something else. As for getting the TS parameters, I'm just going to have to look into it and weigh out my options. If I can't do anything with these subs then I'll look into upgrading to something else and then do a box. I'm in no rush anyways. YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/JeepAndBass Website: https://www.jeepandbass.com/ My Jeep: 157.3dB @26hz Drag Style 162.3dB @36Hz Outlaw 160.7db @35hz Headrest My Honda: 155.4dB Drag Style 158.0db Outlaw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeepAndBassXJ Posted March 25, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2015 FWIW here's a 6th a team mate of mine did. It has a STUPID bandwidth. Below 20 all the way up into the high 50s That's the bandwidth I'd be happy with! YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/JeepAndBass Website: https://www.jeepandbass.com/ My Jeep: 157.3dB @26hz Drag Style 162.3dB @36Hz Outlaw 160.7db @35hz Headrest My Honda: 155.4dB Drag Style 158.0db Outlaw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triticum Agricolam Posted March 25, 2015 Report Share Posted March 25, 2015 They are well broke in, but the DATS is expensive! They work well in a 4th but like you said I need to know if they will actually work in a 6th or something else. As for getting the TS parameters, I'm just going to have to look into it and weigh out my options. If I can't do anything with these subs then I'll look into upgrading to something else and then do a box. I'm in no rush anyways. For the data that a DATS can give you $100 is a very small price to pay. Though if you only are going to use it once, the price may seem a little steep. There are other ways to get the T/S parameters. You may be able to find someone who has a DATS or something like it too. If you were closer to me I'd be happy to do it for you. "Nothing prevents people from knowing the truth more than the belief they already know it.""Making bass is easy, making music is the hard part."Builds: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khinds94 Posted March 25, 2015 Report Share Posted March 25, 2015 FWIW here's a 6th a team mate of mine did. It has a STUPID bandwidth. Below 20 all the way up into the high 50s That's the bandwidth I'd be happy with! If you tune in the low 20s with a normal ported box you will get nearly the same bandwidth because of the car/suv peak frequency which usually is around 45-50 hz. So it would peak in the low 20s then dip in the 30s and peak again at 45-50. I was trying to achieve the same thing.The 6th order would be more efficient if done properly... but it's really not worth the time for most people 03 Sable LS AA mayhem 12" D2 Sundown ZV4 12" D1 Tantric HD 12" D2 Tantric SHD 12" D1 Sundown X12 V2 D2 2.5 cu net Sundown 2000d @ 1 ohm XS Power XP2000 Sky High Sound Deadener Sky High wire Stock alt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triticum Agricolam Posted March 25, 2015 Report Share Posted March 25, 2015 FWIW here's a 6th a team mate of mine did. It has a STUPID bandwidth. Below 20 all the way up into the high 50s Do you know if your team mate ever measured the frequency response of this system? The problem with videos is once you start clipping the hell out of the mic its pretty hard to tell what the thing actually sounds like. No offense to you or to anyone else, but I hear a lot of people say a system is "flat" or has huge bandwidth, but I rarely see any numbers to go along with those claims. I'm sorry, but I just don't trust people's ear-o-meters, I don't trust my own for that matter. Almost no one on here trusts people's ear-o-meters for SPL numbers, and I don't see how frequency response is any different so I'm not sure why its treated differently. "Nothing prevents people from knowing the truth more than the belief they already know it.""Making bass is easy, making music is the hard part."Builds: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
audiofanaticz Posted March 26, 2015 Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 ^^^ Agreed. Mine plays 20hz like a champ as well, as anything to about 57hz with my current port setup. But sealed up with the mic on the glass (db drag style) Im at about a 147db at 20hz, and a 156 at the higher frequency in "lights down low".far from flat but it sounds good so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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