VtecDomani Posted July 10, 2008 Report Share Posted July 10, 2008 id go for quality, i got this cheap 21" sub to play around with and it is crap, my single 12" is a lot louder and sounds better with the same power. the 21" was rated at 1200w rms and my single 12" is 1000w rms. Quote Head Unit: Pioneer DEH-P4050UB Subs: 2 Pioneer Premier 12" ts-w3004spls Sub box: 3.2ft3 tuned to 35hz Sub Amp: SoundMagus DK 1800 Speaker Amp: Rockford Fosgate 200a4 Bridged to fronts Front Speakers: DLS MS5A components 2 gauge power & ground Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotshot27 Posted July 10, 2008 Report Share Posted July 10, 2008 id go for quality, i got this cheap 21" sub to play around with and it is crap, my single 12" is a lot louder and sounds better with the same power. the 21" was rated at 1200w rms and my single 12" is 1000w rms. pics of 21" sub? i have heard of them [besides jackhammer] but never seen one Quote Current Setup: Factory HU with LOC mids/highs-Insignia components Sub- E8 in bass tube Amp- sae-1200d Show Setup: HU-Sony MEX-1HD (brings massive respect for sony) fronts - Infinity Kappa perfect comps rears- Infinity Kappa coax mid/high amp - Autotek 5600 Subs - 2 RE SE 15's Sub Amps - 2xSAE-1200D Box - 5cubes sealed Wire- Lots of Knu 1/0 SECOND SKIN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VtecDomani Posted July 10, 2008 Report Share Posted July 10, 2008 pics of 21" sub? i have heard of them [besides jackhammer] but never seen one just a second ill find some Quote Head Unit: Pioneer DEH-P4050UB Subs: 2 Pioneer Premier 12" ts-w3004spls Sub box: 3.2ft3 tuned to 35hz Sub Amp: SoundMagus DK 1800 Speaker Amp: Rockford Fosgate 200a4 Bridged to fronts Front Speakers: DLS MS5A components 2 gauge power & ground Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VtecDomani Posted July 10, 2008 Report Share Posted July 10, 2008 i couldnt find any so heres 1 i just took next to a blown 12" Quote Head Unit: Pioneer DEH-P4050UB Subs: 2 Pioneer Premier 12" ts-w3004spls Sub box: 3.2ft3 tuned to 35hz Sub Amp: SoundMagus DK 1800 Speaker Amp: Rockford Fosgate 200a4 Bridged to fronts Front Speakers: DLS MS5A components 2 gauge power & ground Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingsuv Posted July 10, 2008 Report Share Posted July 10, 2008 I'm a fan of both. IMO both have there place. If you don't have much room, then a few good subs are your thing. If you have room to spare and like seeing a gang load of subs pumping then go with a bunch. A few subs are easier to get loud then a ton. A ton of subs will feel louder when they move a lot of air. :hairtrick: Quote Designing, building, and shipping boxes. Yahoo IM - kingsuv00If the listening level is too loud, please inform the driver, so he can promptly pull over, and let you out. not many cars can get me to pluggin my ears but this one.......damn. I mean the first minute is ok but that thing just really starts digging deeper and deeper in your earhole till you cant stand it no more. Seems like it does it with relative ease....16 12's on 8 amps.........gotta love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiBTLforlife Posted July 11, 2008 Report Share Posted July 11, 2008 x2, the shallows cannot move as much as the full size. lol X3 .......that why i got rid of the things.....i didnt like them...they were ok but u couldnt even hear them when u got out of the truck 30ft....now the the Fi it so great and hits so much lower then them shallows...live u learn Quote 2 AQ 10'' HDC3 copper subs 1 3500d AQ amp 146.3db on TL with stock electrical in single cab truck at 32hz RESULT: 1st place at comp, 3rd overall out of 20 cars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonathancullen89 Posted July 11, 2008 Report Share Posted July 11, 2008 i used to have four 12" ultra liniers, they where reletivly good subs for burps and such. i couldnt for the life of me blow them, i tried (exept a power outlet lol). well i went from those four 12" and yeah they got loud, then i sold the hatchback and got a cavy. no room for the four of them without building a wall (i wouldnt loose a back seat unless they where good subs and i hit at least a 145) so i got one 15 dc level 2, im giving it half the power as the four 12" and it is louder and gets way deeper then the four 12"s. the level 2 is priced very nicely IMO and is well worth the money, i love mine. and now from my experience i would take the good quality subwoofer over a few cheap ones any day. Quote 1992 cavalier build 1992 blazer s10 kenwood cd hifonics hfi2500d 6 soon to be 12 12" hifonics hfi12d4's shit ton-o-wire Blurred Vision Audio Team SMD feedback/refs. clicky!- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
assman Posted July 12, 2008 Report Share Posted July 12, 2008 I'm a fan of both. IMO both have there place. If you don't have much room, then a few good subs are your thing. If you have room to spare and like seeing a gang load of subs pumping then go with a bunch. A few subs are easier to get loud then a ton. A ton of subs will feel louder when they move a lot of air. :hairtrick: I agree with the king Save some money up and go with cone area and quality. Quote Assman IdustriesFear The DuckTeam Notoriously Loud Mafia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wL<3bass Posted July 12, 2008 Report Share Posted July 12, 2008 i had four shallow pioneer subs in my truck powered by a memphis class d amp. each sub was getting about 250RMS a sub.....i got the new Fi BL12'' sub and installed it in a 2.5cuft box ported to 32hz getting 1000RMS and hits way harder than the four subs in a sealed box.....everyone i know that hurd the shallows and then hurd the Fi single 12'' was shocked....it is two times louder no doubt....drops so low and clean.................so i would go with good quality subs over alot of cheap subs IMO......you will be happy in the end Okay your comparing sealed shallow mounts vs. a ported sub more geared toward spl.... I dont honestly think that is even close to being a fair comparison. Quote Vehicle: 1997 S10 Blazer 4dr 4X4 Exterior: Rear End Bagged, Black Grill, Lifted 2" Amplifiers: Rockford Fosgate T8004 & T10001bd Batteries: 2 Stinger SPV35, Kinetik HC2400 Electrical: Big 3, DC Power 290amp Alternator w/ MLA at 15.5v Enclosure: 4.2 ft³ @ 33Hz 84sq.in. of port (20sq.in. per cube) Headunit: Eclipse CD3200 w/ 80G iPod Mids/Highs: Rockford T152s (a-pillars), Rockford T162s (doors) Subwoofers: 1 15" Fi BL Fully Loaded Wire: All 1/0g Kicker Hyperflex My YouTube Videos My Fiberglass A-Pillar Build My "Seamless" Looking Box Build My DD1508 T-Line Bandpass Build "Seamless" w/ Acrylic Windows (for '05 TrailBlazer) My Stealth 8" Fiberglass Build (for '05 TrailBlazer) My Build For A Friend's '08 Cobalt 15" BL Sealed Off From The Trunk My feedback/references... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ISO Posted July 12, 2008 Report Share Posted July 12, 2008 Lol do what I did save up and get a gang of cone area from some bad ass subs Best of both worlds X10 I feel the same way. if I'm going to go big(or alot) I'm going to do it big and badass. I don't like cheap unless there is a good reason for it. Quote Isobaric - Refers to the practice of coupling two drivers together to make them act as one. "Giving up doesn't always mean you are weak; sometimes it means that you are strong enough to let go." Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. The Destruction of a person builds character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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