AI James Posted January 5, 2007 Report Share Posted January 5, 2007 personal preference i'll pick even a 8w7 over a alpine type R. IMO just because you throw 4 of somethign budget together doesnt change what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokey Posted January 5, 2007 Report Share Posted January 5, 2007 True there, you can have a bunch of crap vs. a little quality. The little quality is gonna sound better than the bunch of crap. No matter how you look at it, it's still gonna be a bunch of crap. I'm not saying that the Type R's are crap....just a general comparison. I've never heard or used Alpine products. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AI James Posted January 5, 2007 Report Share Posted January 5, 2007 ive owned both, Alpines are decently loud, but theres nother about a Type R and a W7 to compare really its totally Apples and Oranges Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPLGEO Posted January 5, 2007 Report Share Posted January 5, 2007 true type ares get loud.. and good SQ.. w7's still get loud but more SQ the anything... whats better 4-12" Type-Rs or 1-13.5" W7? whats better 4-12" Type-Rs or 2-12" W7s? agreed but since his name is alpine im sure he did that on purpose lol 2x post HAHA...I finally got to use it, LMAO!!!! 1995 Geo Prism . FI BTL 12 P chamfer, 3rdmagnet HIXMAX COIL 1/0 big 3 HIFONICS COLOSSUS 1.7 cubs tuned to 60hz in the works 2xTruck battery 1125 cca. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSN2meBoom916 Posted January 5, 2007 Report Share Posted January 5, 2007 SUPER DOOPER X2 ON THE BS POSTAGE. But I'm just replying as kinda a RANT since it's a dumb topic: I don't care who/what/what/when and all that "I heard of a guy"..."so and so says..."..."everybody knows..." and any of that kind of BLANKET GENERALIZATION is crapolla. There are WAY TOO MANY variables involved in building setups.Period. You can make "a crappy woofer" sound awsome and "the best woofer" sound terrible if you know enough or lack enough knowledge. It's a like a sliding scale of good/bad in either direction and I have heard W7's sound terrible and swap meet subs whoopin ass and sounding great. And vice versa as you would expect. We should all be in agreement that the knowledge behind the install is key in any setup be it SQ, SPL, or what have you. The "what is better" question, in such broad terms as comparing 2 (or any) subs SHOULD BE BANNED IMO. It only opens up the forum to trash talking of brands/types of products that leaves someone butt hurt, and makes no progress. As far as W7's being an SQ or SPL sub, if you ask JL they says it's an SQL sub as in the best of both worlds. Wheather THAT's true or not, like I said you can argue the point either way based on "what I heard/seen/read" forever to no avail. It's a stupid argument to get heated over since it's never ending (from my exp.). That said, IMO it would be EASIER to get a setup with 4 Type R 12's louder than even a single 13W7 and I bet the SQ of that setup would be good enough for MOST folks interested/willing to run 4-12's. However, I have seen a single 12W7 pull decent #'s and maintain Above avg. SQ. So just build it right and the outcome should be LOUD SQ ;D So, maybe that's all for this one..or maybe some one will try to Flame me up for acting like a know it all, but i just posted this cuz I have seen more posts like this recently about "what would fit", "how loud would this be" and "what would be louder" and those are all pretty silly Q's to ask IMO. I could be wrong, if so Flame away. COOGLE SAID:"bro thats how we got where we are... buy making messes ...... i still learn all the time you just gota be willing to ruck up some shit" "In order to attain the impossible, one must attempt the absurd." ~ Miguel de Unamuno"One machine can do the work of fifty ordinary men, but no machine can do the work of one extraordinary man" -Elbert Hubbard"A proud man can learn humility...but he will be proud of that too" ~I forget who.I'm far from perfect and I know it better than anyone, but I hope to be good at what I do, when I do it...Installs I've done:My Integra: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/ind...?showtopic=3161The Lexus : http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/ind...?showtopic=1535Law's Maxima: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/ind...ic=5568&hl=Jeff's 2500HD: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/ind...ic=5382&hl=Acura RSX-S: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/ind...?showtopic=3142Z-32 300zx: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/ind...?showtopic=34602004 Civic 4dr: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/ind...?showtopic=8190Trunk/Corner Box: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/ind...c=16036&hl=1969 Chevy C-10: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/ind...c=20319&hl=Seat-Back AMP-RACK How-to: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/ind...ic=9428&hl=Bunch of subs still for salehttp://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/ind...l=lsn2meboom916"It's game night...we're playin......sex."~Quagmire"When disneyland started it was powered completely by orphan children running on treadmills to generate e-lectrissty…and today, them children are New York Yankees". ~Dale Gribble"Fill it with ice...then pour it up to the top of the ice...& Shut da Fu** up!" ~Urs truly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernesto Posted January 5, 2007 Report Share Posted January 5, 2007 whats better 4-12" Type-Rs or 1-13.5" W7? whats better 4-12" Type-Rs or 2-12" W7s? Wait wait a minute... The jackhammer is better then all of them! Stick with that Jackhammer of yours! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
01xtreme Posted January 5, 2007 Report Share Posted January 5, 2007 whats better 4-12" Type-Rs or 1-13.5" W7? whats better 4-12" Type-Rs or 2-12" W7s? [glow=red,2,300]Wait wait a minute... The jackhammer is better then all of them! Stick with that Jackhammer of yours! [/glow] I was thinking the same thing, better yet build a box of 4 jackhammers that would hit like 3000 db's. My System: Pioneer AVH-P3200BT 4-Dayton 7 inch reference series (front doors) 8-Onkyo 3/4 inch tweeters (dash) 1-Sundown Audio 100.4D (mids/highs) 2-18" BTL's (for now) Crescendo 3kwp (for sale) Complete rebuild coming soon... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CompressionFed Posted January 5, 2007 Report Share Posted January 5, 2007 Obviously I agree with everyone above that the 4 Type R's will out perform the sigle 13w7, but I am amazed at how many people discount the W7's as an inferior sub. THE TRUTH..is, yes there are better subs out there that handle more power, for less $$$, but come on guys...the W7's are great subs. Two years ago I tried out two 10w7's in my hatch, with a single 1000/1 for power. The box was disigned by Dominick Butta at JL, ended up making 148.8 in the kick. The box played music extraordiarily well, and had great range as this was my DD. While most of you may not think that's great, many others would disagree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slinky Posted January 5, 2007 Report Share Posted January 5, 2007 148 is a good number. DD M4 Rockford Fosgate P500-4 SoundQubed HDC415 w carbon fiber cap 2 Rockford Fosagate T1675-S XS Power D3400 Under Hood XS Power D5100 in rear Michael Singer 200A Alt Build Log: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/153901-2012-veloster-update-842013-wall-build-4-15s/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AI James Posted January 6, 2007 Report Share Posted January 6, 2007 Obviously I agree with everyone above that the 4 Type R's will out perform the sigle 13w7, but I am amazed at how many people discount the W7's as an inferior sub. THE TRUTH..is, yes there are better subs out there that handle more power, for less $$$, but come on guys...the W7's are great subs. Two years ago I tried out two 10w7's in my hatch, with a single 1000/1 for power. The box was disigned by Dominick Butta at JL, ended up making 148.8 in the kick. The box played music extraordiarily well, and had great range as this was my DD. While most of you may not think that's great, many others would disagree. Hey isaid i would take the W7 over the Type Rs lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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