Ray Posted October 13, 2009 Report Posted October 13, 2009 I wouldn't waste my money on an Audison amp unless I got it on a good deal. My RF amps suit me just fine. However my head units and speakers are top notch. I have heard close to 100 different amps and the majority of them sound the same. There are a few that were cleaner sounding than others. That may be than some of those amps put out slightly more power than the others. Audison a waste? WOW. You must have fucked up ears to say RF sounds "good". We were talking about the best SQ amps, not what you can "live with". Once again, if YOU can;t hear the difference that's ok.. Not everybody can Some people do hear differences and those are the people (wallet willing) that will drop cash on "great" gear. Do me a favor though and name off the rest of your gear. Shit a pic of the install would be awesome also. 2008 California state record holder 157.2 Bassrace2009 California state record holder 157.0 BassraceRollin 50's 158.7db2009 King of Cali Bassrace2009 USACi score 160.5 @ 42hz
Marlo Stanfield Posted October 13, 2009 Report Posted October 13, 2009 SQ is very subjective from person to person but IMO the best SQ oriented amps made are Audison, Macintosh, and Zapco. I've owned Audison + Zapco amps in the past and they were worth every penny. Also I've heard a few Macintosh setups and was extremely impressed with the finished product(granted they were paired w/ very high dollar speakers, woofers, etc). 1998 Ford Explorer Eddie Bauer... New setup, old ride... QX56 is staying stock til I get loud... It's only getting walled off if I don't meet my goal @ SBN. Pioneer AVIC-N2 (12) 12" RE SXs old model.... (3) AB VFL 500.1 @ 1ohm each Dual 300amp Ohio Gen alts.... (10) Northstar NSB-125s 26ft3 @ 33hz w/ a ton of port area 156.5 @ 40hz @ dash, Db Drag style / 153.2 Bassrace
Neel Posted October 13, 2009 Report Posted October 13, 2009 Monolithic , steg , linear power , tru technology , brax, genesis ,McIntosh , Sinfoni , Arc's SE amps , Zapco DCS / C2Ks , Audison Thesis ... List is endless . Lets not bring up the Richard Clark challenge...... this thread will just go to complete crap. Who brought up anything fosgate in this thread? lol ban? Best bang for buck? IMO my zeds with the burr brown upgrades Too Much Stuff to list .
lanman31337 Posted October 13, 2009 Report Posted October 13, 2009 Monolithic , steg , linear power , tru technology , brax, genesis ,McIntosh , Sinfoni , Arc's SE amps , Zapco DCS / C2Ks , Audison Thesis ... List is endless . Lets not bring up the Richard Clark challenge...... this thread will just go to complete crap. Who brought up anything fosgate in this thread? lol ban? Best bang for buck? IMO my zeds with the burr brown upgrades I love old and new Zed. 2 - Audiopipe AP30001Ds 1 - Lanzar Opti Scion 600.4 4 - Lanzar Optidrive 1232D's 1 - Lanzar Opti 5.1 1 - Lanzar Opti 6.1 1 - Lanzar Opti 6C midbass 1 - Alphasonic PCT6551 1 - Lanzar VX830 1 - JBL 22 band EQ 1 - Lanzar SDBT75NU 1 - AudioControl Epic160
treossi Posted October 13, 2009 Report Posted October 13, 2009 There are no sq amps. All amps do is amplify the signal given to them from the head unit. It's better to spend more money on a quality head unit and speakers and buy a good amp from a quality company that is made with good parts that does it's rated power. It's true that some amps have lower distortion THD than others but the differences in levels between those amps is inaudible by human hearing. Anything under 10% is truly inaudible. A lot of these amp companies and folks on EBAY make their money off of people believing this crap. i really can't believe you just said that... you are now a known noob Team sundownWESTCOASTSPL.COM we're throwing dbdrag events very soon visit the website for details
MrSoundz Posted October 13, 2009 Report Posted October 13, 2009 i really can't believe you just said that... you are now a known noob Never a noobie. Only a fool would make that comment. Just because I do not agree with the theories that are being passed around about spending extra money on Sinfoni, Tru or MacIntosh amps doesn't make me a newbie. There was a time when I was in my 20's or even early 30's where I would have spent the extra money believing that garbage but not now. I would rather invest my money in a house, vacation or investment where I could get a better return on my money than buying some supposingly SQ amp. Not me buddy. I have actively been involved in car audio since 1989 running the Punch 45, 75 or 150 amps. I have been to more of the earlier sound competitions and have many friends that work in car audio shops and I hear all of the systems. I have used everything from Linear Power, ZED (old and new), heard MacIntosh & Audison amps and I can be objective. I don't want to cause a stir on this forum but I will believe what I want and if it offends some people I don't care. I will not waste my money on an Audison, Tru, Sifoni amp because the THD is lower, damping factor is higher, etc. The differences in sound are too minute for me to justify spending the extra money on this high end brands. Again, going from .01% to .003% THD is not audible to the ear. If I were to spend the extra money, again it would be on high quality speakers, head units or processors. I have just heard too many people with all of these high end brands get outperformed by people running mid level amps with high quality speakers and look like total idiots. I respect you guys on the forum but do not care what you think of my opinions on these high end amps. At the end of the day, I would rather have $15,000+ in my bank account than inside my car where a person will never get back what they spent on that so-called high end equipment. I have been in the car audio game for 20+ years and I know better. I have nothing to prove to you guys and will not be putting pictures of my system online. Have a nice evening.
MrSoundz Posted October 13, 2009 Report Posted October 13, 2009 i really can't believe you just said that... you are now a known noob Never a noobie. Only a fool would make that comment. Just because I do not agree with the theories that are being passed around about spending extra money on Sinfoni, Tru or MacIntosh amps doesn't make me a newbie. There was a time when I was in my 20's or even early 30's where I would have spent the extra money believing that garbage but not now. I would rather invest my money in a house, vacation or investment where I could get a better return on my money than buying some supposingly SQ amp. Not me buddy. I have actively been involved in car audio since 1989 running the Punch 45, 75 or 150 amps. I have been to more of the earlier sound competitions and have many friends that work in car audio shops and I hear all of the systems. I have used everything from Linear Power, ZED (old and new), heard MacIntosh & Audison amps and I can be objective. I don't want to cause a stir on this forum but I will believe what I want and if it offends some people I don't care. I will not waste my money on an Audison, Tru, Sifoni amp because the THD is lower, damping factor is higher, etc. The differences in sound are too minute for me to justify spending the extra money on this high end brands. Again, going from .01% to .003% THD is not audible to the ear. If I were to spend the extra money, again it would be on high quality speakers, head units or processors. I have just heard too many people with all of these high end brands get outperformed by people running mid level amps with high quality speakers and look like total idiots. I respect you guys on the forum but do not care what you think of my opinions on these high end amps. At the end of the day, I would rather have $15,000+ in my bank account than inside my car where a person will never get back what they spent on that so-called high end equipment. I have been in the car audio game for 20+ years and I know better. I have nothing to prove to you guys and will not be putting pictures of my system online. Have a nice evening.
doug118 Posted October 13, 2009 Report Posted October 13, 2009 At the end of the day, I would rather have $15,000+ in my bank account than inside my car where a person will never get back what they spent on that so-called high end equipment. best thing I've ever read on this forum 2001 Tahoe. Huge front stage and 55+ substage http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/196418-another-tahoe-build-huge-front-stage-and-155-substage/
Neel Posted October 13, 2009 Report Posted October 13, 2009 remember that you can only hear the difference when your setup is installed correctly and geared toward using the least amount of processing possible. I am tired of people expecting great results without putting any damn effort into their install. Too Much Stuff to list .
CHINO11550 Posted October 13, 2009 Report Posted October 13, 2009 I can tell the difference between my Memphis Mojo 4000kw & my ARC Audio 4000SE even on my Fi BTL'z.... H/U Pioneer deh80prs w/ HRT iStreamer Ipod DACFront stage is active, 4 Morel Elate 6.5" & 8 CDT DRT26 tweetsamp running 4mids, Mosconi Audio 300.2amp running 8tit & alum tweets, Mosconi Audio 200.28 12" Ascendant Audio Chaos. amps 2 Digital Designs M4'zbox is a 4th order band passbatts. 1 XS Power D3400 under hood,6 D3100 in back2 XP 370 amp DC Power alts.MLA module 15+voltsAll in a 97 2door Tahoe LT2010 West Coast Reg. 140-149.9 Bass Race Champ Team Bass Hz
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