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[bigarsenal]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFVxCjQ3hYI

never flashed a gun!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Coolwazabi]

old news but still fUked up..

[LSN2meBoom916]

Yes, old news, and bad vibes for sure...BUT:

1: Don't tell the cops that have guns pointed at you: "I'MMA SHOOT YOUR DOG IF YOU LET HIM LOOSE", or even that you HAVE a gun, ESPECIALLY IF YOU DON'T. You're kinda asking for it.

2: DON'T, after saying THAT^^^, whip out a black flip flop, IN THE DARK, when the dog runs at you.

3:He either wanted to die just to escape life (i.e. suicidal), or was so determined to "make his point" that he'd give his life for it and did.

4: He acted stupidly, and paid the price. My heart really only goes out to the dog.

5: Cops need MUCH more training and hardware options regarding use of force ("maybe" a less lethal method like rubber bullets, CS gas, or tazer could have been used with better effect), AS WELL as some GAWDAMN TARGET PRACTICE.

Bein a cop can't be easy. Friendly fire is all bad.

Reason # 1,012 that Compton CA is bad place.

[bigarsenal]

yea but you cant shoot unless you see a gun or have a gun pointed at you. they wanted it done and over with thats why they started shooting. they had lights they seen that he didnt point any gun or flip flop he just threw it as a reaction to the dog coming

[Chris]

He was a dumbass CUZZZ & knew the chances he was taking. I really still don't respect the police though & haven't for years.

Edited May 21, 2007 by Chris

[LSN2meBoom916]

yea but you cant shoot unless you see a gun or have a gun pointed at you. they wanted it done and over with thats why they started shooting. they had lights they seen that he didnt point any gun or flip flop he just threw it as a reaction to the dog coming

Everything is different when YOUR life is at stake.

If someone says they have a gun, whether you can see it or not you have to assume they do.

The lights did not light up BEHIND the wood post, which is where his "gun hand"/flip flop was. If you are unsure if they do or don't, if they pull it out/wave it at you/"throw it" in a rapid gesture, I'm willing to bet you'd make the same split second reaction of self preservation.

Was it terrible? YES.

Should it have gone down that way? NO.

But if the cops "knew" he was bluffing, and just "wanted it over with" they would have rushed him/tackled him/cuffed him, etc.

It's the uncertainty that screws up "the perfect shoot"/best case scenario. If it's YOU or THEM, in ANY standoff, MOST, if not ALL folks, myself included would rather face manslaughter charges than a barrage of bullets from the bad guy.

If you've ever played paintball, AIRSOFT, or any other kind of Real/simulated shoot out game when PAIN is the result, chances are you have either been a victim of or the perpetrator of FRIENDLY fire. It happens all the time cuz when folks get scared and are faceing quick decisions, they make mistakes.

Case in point.

[zaxfire69]

Lsn2meboom916 is right..You don't tell the cops you gonna shoot the dog or them if you ain't got a gun..Cops did what they were trained to do..That dude could have had a Hand Grenade ..Don't play with the cops..They just looking for a reason to light you up....I still don't like the fact they pull me over for my music when some thug ass dude is selling smack on the street corner...I ain't doing nuthing but crusin enjoying some sound..

Edited May 21, 2007 by zaxfire69

[BassJunkie]

Um, why were so many shots fired? The entire police crew didn't need to shoot lol.

[LSN2meBoom916]

Um, why were so many shots fired? The entire police crew didn't need to shoot lol.

I TOTALLY agree.

The F-up was only compounded by the fact that it seemed like EVERY officer on site thought he/she was the first responder unit and was responsible for the shot.

There should have been HIGHLY trianed swat snipers called in or at least a minimum of 2-3 close support officers cleared to fire if needed.

Also-Those 80+rounds go off in how much time? maybe a second or two-thus it had to be a LOT of different cops firing in a huge cross fire, which didn't give the bad guy or Dog much chance.

Poorly orchestrated encounter for sure.

It'll make a good "what not to do" in deadly force training classes.

Edited May 22, 2007 by LSN2meBoom916

[Slinky]

fucked up vid!