Legal, sealed, Outlaw.

[Team_DC-Derrick]

why dont you just make your own org... and you run it the way you want? that away you dont have to complain about rules that have been in place for years?

[sub2weeker]

why dont you just make your own org... and you run it the way you want? that away you dont have to complain about rules that have been in place for years?

i already have done that it is the SPLeague....

and if you dont like the spirit of competition and Evolution than you will remain in the Organizations that their true undelying purpose is to take your money.

[Team_DC-Derrick]

Im not in the organizations at all, i dont compete... But i dont see the point in bitching about the orgs that are out there either...

[HHR Ed]

i already have done that it is the SPLeague....

and if you dont like the spirit of competition and Evolution than you will remain in the Organizations that their true undelying purpose is to take your money.

I too have created my own format. Going against the traditional "Legal" Method. and it was received with great excitement.

I do however, feel there will always be a place for a standardized method of metering known as the "legal" method. To ensure equality according to the scientific method world wide. Especially when going for World Records.

[sub2weeker]

I too have created my own format. Going against the traditional "Legal" Method. and it was received with great excitement.

I do however, feel there will always be a place for a standardized method of metering known as the "legal" method. To ensure equality according to the scientific method world wide. Especially when going for World Records.

i understand how PEOPLE THINK that the "Legal" standard is to ensure equality. but its like all those people that thought the Earth was flat...

a couple Hundred years ago people believed the earth was flat... and that turned out to be false

then People KNEW that the Earth was the center of the universe... that too was false

a few Years back the AudioControl was the standard... than changed once the Termlab came along

and until you just now the "Legal" Standard for Equality has been determined WRONG because we are metering the actual MAX SPL you can produce.

[dwright27]

i mean i cant take it,,, LOL

so... We are all into the Car stereo hobbie, and there are some seriously stupid rules and made up shit that makes me laugh.

for starters. the whole deal on what is considered "LEGAL" for SPL runs. give me a fuckin break. your legal score is the Loudest Metered score your vehicle can produce with the mic in front of the b-piller... (I'm sure some ASSHOLE) was at a Stereo Comp and made that rule up so the neighbors wouldnt complain because metering with the doors open and windows down is WAAAAAAY LOUDER, and then though that would be a BRILLIANT way to determine "LEGAL" for an SPL run.

i think its retarded! i'm just wondering what everyone else thinks about this one in particularly,

i know i didnt build my system to roll around with my windows up beating it to the ground....

lol, Jeff only gains .1 DB from the dash to the kick. didnt test with door open though ...

DB Drag is where its at IMO though. Only number that matters, cause you dont drive around with the doors open, or with your head in the kickpanel.

StreetSPL or NSPL cant remember which it is, uses 2 meters, one on the dash and one at the headrest. most accurate if you ask me.

[Team_DC-Derrick]

you have alot of work ahead of you to change the whole worlds thinking, go to any world finals at all and try to change them...

and also saying that the way they are metering is wrong, then all the world records are wrong as well.. since they are not up to your standard...

[Hotdog]

Everyone has there likes and dislikes on different organizations. When will your organization have a show in Illinois?

[dwright27]

see. this is what i'm talking about. there is no way that from one vehicle to the next that having mic on the glass is an even playing field.... ALLL vehicles are not the same. an astro is twice the height of most vehicles, and depending on how much bigger or smaller the vehicle is there is going to be a difference. so that throws the even playing field out the window, especially when you consider a CRX in the picture. having the doors open windows down etc will allow you to turn your vehicle into a true spl machine as it allows you to create true loading. as the vehicle can become the part of the enclosure.

and my vehicle is a clean sinewave... if its not you tune your system in to make sure it is, otherwise you are clipping. either way

they have classes for a reason .... no wall, wall, and its all done pretty much by # of woofers and power from amplifier.

pretty fair if you ask me.

[Playa Named Joe]

I think it's dumb too. I think it should be doors closed, windows down (if wanted), at the head rest.