Level 5 Neo vs Level 6?

[Chode69]

I didn't say they won't play music. And if a properly designed 8inch spider work with a 4inch coil, why hasn't nobody really done it yet? I'm sure smart people have tried instead of spending 100k on tooling new full line of frames. I didn't say it won't work, cause it will. Just not "great". Just my opinion. I won't buy a 8inch spider 4inch coil sub. Period. But this is ME, not you or everybody else.

so because some people attempting it and didn't pull it off well doesn't mean someone else cant do it.

[Mr. Darkjustice]

inverting almost always lowers score if your box is already the right size

inverting doesn't increase cooling

he asked what would keep it kool and i said inverted cause seein the magnets all the time would be kool.

[korey_hofer]

I didn't say they won't play music. And if a properly designed 8inch spider work with a 4inch coil, why hasn't nobody really done it yet? I'm sure smart people have tried instead of spending 100k on tooling new full line of frames. I didn't say it won't work, cause it will. Just not "great". Just my opinion. I won't buy a 8inch spider 4inch coil sub. Period. But this is ME, not you or everybody else.

morel has a 5" coiled sub with like 6" spider maybe 8" not sure it works fine.

[DHFHades]

i mainly said that line of "how does one keep them kooled" being semi sarcastic and was waiting for/expecting a response like this below haha

ah, I tell everyone to run inverted though...looks cool as hell

[Decaf]

But if it loses strength when your using it? What's the point in have a strong motor? Why not get a weaker motor that won't lose strength?

the loss is negligable when the motor is much much stronger than ferrite

idiot.

Edited November 9, 2010 by Decaf

[matt402]

good thread lol.

tell rusty he should make a lvl 6 neo... DUH!

[korey_hofer]

i said look...not overall design or anything

if this were facebook id like this post...and i think the inverted comments were just joking around..i would never invert my subs

yeah after rereading it looks that way, just wanted to make sure they knew that. never good to lose db's

[Loud Avalanche]

they do lose it permanently, dante only gets like 10-20 burps on his 99z's before motors are done for

Alan is also putting an extreme amount of power and heat to his subwoofers. If you excede the cure temperature point of neo it will lose all it's strength. If you are a daily ground pounder you are NEVER going to reach this temperature before you fry the coil so this will NEVER be an issue.

Edited November 9, 2010 by Loud Avalanche

[BanginOnABudget]

pull up to some noobs

they see a small magnet, think you're a joke, dont know its neo.

turn to 11.

make dBs.

noobs. stunned.

i want neos as an option for everything, period.

[VOPA]

Alan is also putting an extreme amount of power and heat to his subwoofers. If you excede the cure temperature point of neo it will lose all it's strength. If you are a daily ground pounder you are NEVER going to reach this temperature before you fry the coil so this will NEVER be an issue.

I am going to say no, nO, and NO. The coils heat up almost instantly when large power is applied. The radiated heat from the coil heats the motor. Review: Coils first and then Motor.

Now, the next fact is that most high quality coils that we find in our favorite high end subs can handle more heat than a neo magnet. Why is that coil going to go out first?

The heat exchnage going on inside the motor is obviosuly a more more complex reaction that has many more variables involved. A motor holds residual heat much much longer, but also takes longer to heat up. (the reasons which makes daily applications tricky) I would like to see a battery of tests with thermal imaging equipment while serving up different drivers, enclosures, power levels, tones, and musical samples.

Edited November 12, 2010 by VOPA