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We have a very unique giveaway going on this month! We have partnered with wheelfire.com to give away a set of Ruff Racing Rims depending on your vehicle. Also, we've partnered with Sony to give away a full GS series system. Once again, it's not a facebook app! Just click on the banner and attach a picture of your stock rims for a chance to win!

http://www.caraudioclassifieds.org/forum/sundown-audio/166968-sundown-new-platform-spl-parts-production-started.html Originally posted back in March on CACO when I started testing. A better name for the new surround is "Standard Roll" as it certainly isn't just for SPL -- we'll likely start calling it that instead to avoid confusion Either way -- they are now fully in stock and can be ordered on new X, Z v.4, NS v.3, and TEAM drivers and also on re-cones for any of these drivers (TEAM already uses it's own spider; so those aren't compatible with the TEAM). -------------------- Hey guys, Some of you may remember -- or you may not remember -- that I have been planning SPL parts for the new "platform" all along. I have had them designed for some time but I had to get at least a somewhat solid footing with the "stock" models before going down this road as well -- after all; the stock woofers really show off the platforms ability to move like crazy and dig down deep into the low frequencies. That being said -- lets re-introduce the SPL parts. They can be used on the X, Z v.4, NS v.3, or any other driver built with our new frames. ----- 1) New heavy duty "stackable" SPL spiders... same material and similar geometry to the NS v.1 / v.2 spiders but available in all of the new larger sizes. There are several advantages to these for SPL applications. * They are lighter. The spider "packs" on stock woofers require more layers for a givens stiffness and the layers are all permanently adhered together over their entire surface area with a flexible adhesive. The extra spider material and the adhesive both have mass. * They are more consistent over time and temperature range in terms of their stiffness. The "packs" can change FS a bit based on heat or cold as the bonding adhesive will loosen up or stiffen based on temperature. * They tighten up more over stroke. This leads to the desirable climb in FS over stroke for SPL applications. It also gives a more "traditional" sound for those that may not like the ultra linear sound of the new drivers. * There is more adjust-ability as we can stack however many or however few you want. ----- 2) New cone bodies impregnated with more fiberglass for additional strength (minimal mass difference) combined with much smaller "high profile" surrounds. So they are a bit stronger; which all of the new cones are already geometrically very strong due to how deep they are anyway. The BIGGEST difference is that our massive surrounds are heavy -- they are the single heaviest part in our moving assembly. So these surrounds will shave off MMS to get your FS up. The secondary difference is that this profile is a little less linear -- it is based on the Z v.3 18" surround shape; this shape tightens more over stroke than a normal half-roll or even our "mega-roll" surrounds. In SPL this extra tightening helps raise FS over stroke. In our Terra the Z v.3 cone/surround was always MUCH louder than a half-roll due to this fact. As mentioned with the spiders... this surround will lend itself to a more "traditional" sound as well -- making the new platform drivers sound more like a Z v.3 or other driver in that class. These are obviously not capable of FULLY utilizing our new frames full capacity but using my conservative calculations they are good for anywhere from 3 to 3.5" p-p reliably depending on the size. They are still pretty big surrounds so they can work reliably with the big spider packs just not as dramatic as our "mega roll" surrounds. Z v.3 18" surround is 26mm x 25mm -- which most people are familiar with and it's a very capable design. New SPL 10" = 30mm x 28.85mm New SPL 12" = 33mm x 31.75mm New SPL 15" = 35mm x 33.5mm New SPL 18" = 35mm x 33.5mm The 15" and 18" offer the same surround size just like the "mega rolls" since they use the same spider size. ----- So basically we are going to shift the response upward in static T/S terms by reducing mass and increasing stiffness -- and also shift it upwards even further over stroke by using parts that tighten up more as they get moving. You can also choose to use the SPL Cone with standard spiders... or the SPL spiders with the standard "mega roll" cones as well. So many options! -------------------- ** 10 Inch SPL Roll vs. Mega-Roll ** 12 Inch SPL Roll vs. Mega-Roll ** 15 Inch SPL Roll vs. Mega-Roll ** 18 Inch SPL Roll vs. Mega-Roll ** "SPL" Spiders -- these are like extra large NS v.1/v.2 Spiders

seems easy enough to enter! I don't need any rims but i know a lot of people could use some! Thanks Sonic!

It's cause d series isn't meant to be under hood it can't take the heat ... I had it happen to me also use a heat blanket ...

Not sure where he gets his, but they're just regular PC fans. www.newegg.com should have them fairly cheap.

nope! Email me your info if you already haven't...if you have, resend to remind it will go out tomorrow.

Built up an X-10 with the Standard Roll "SPL" style surround and did a quick video today. Fs is increased to ~46 Hz compared to ~28 Hz stock -- this is similar to the Z v.3 series 12s.

The wonder gu that AQ/SQ and DD uses that they call it is made by CP Moyen ->>> http://www.cpmoyen.com/ It costs $65.00 for a gallon of it!! I looked into stocking it as well as some other adhesives from them, but only needed it once so I just used the credit on my account from parts express and ordered a few bottles. There was no way I was going to pay $24 for 2oz of glue that I tracked down the manufacture and model of and found it for $65 a gallon. lulz Be aware that you dont want to use it on butyl or rubber, its not made for it and the bond wont be good. You can also buy it at parts express as well, Its a bit cheaper than AQ/SQ prices and only a little cheaper with their sale. http://www.parts-express.com/parts-express-speaker-repair-glue-1-oz-bottle--340-076 Here is the MSDS of the glue from parts express, which labels the model number and manufacture. http://www.parts-express.com/pedocs/more-info/340-076-parts-express-more-info.pdf

to all those people who say "i can't win system of the month because i don't have 8 18" woofers and 40,000 watts"....let me ask you this, if this build was by ANYONE else besides me (because i can't enter) would it be a contender? i say this because me personally, if i saw someone do this build i would vote for it . A bass amp, a mids/highs amp, 2 P3 12's and some separates...not very expensive but it is what you do with it. You don't need the biggest and baddest to have a solid, clean, safe, reliable, great sounding, great looking system. Just gotta put your heart into it and have some decent practice behind you.

So since I found it funny And since someone thinks they can make demands I'll answer his demands. No. The links stay. Everythign stays. You should be proud that your mom is a standup woman who understands the right and wrong. Its just too bad you didnt Stephen. Its also too bad you didnt think about what mail fraud felonies would do to your poor little young life. I am surprised by the audacity you have by making demands after trying to screw someone over on a deal you should have never been doing. In case you didnt notice. you are now in bright pink. You also have no rights on the forum. You are blackballed. oh and in case you didnt notice. I also added your real name to the title? Want to know why? When someone googles your name trying to find some back history out on you guess what comes up? This thread. Get mad. Get upset. There was nothing non factual posted. It can not be used as slander or as libel. I guess thats what happens when you try to screw people on the internet. Have a nice day

You've bee. A member for like nine days. Seriously