Attn: DD-1 users.

[meade916]

the 160 he was talking about was me.. i know for a fact my deck distorts at vol 24 and up so no guessing there i set it at vol 23. no guessing on the gain ether but i have been doing this a loooong time. for the avarge user the tool is awsome i just want to know if it takes into acount the things i stated above

just out of pure curiosity, i would personally like to be there when those gains were set......because 24 is a LOW number to start distorting, even for a shitty deck. (unless the deck only goes up to 25 which then i take that back LOL) We usually see that when there is a line-driver in the chain. Were you using a line driver or is that deck that dirty? Did you use the same tracks we use (0db, -5, -10 @40 hz) or similar?

Also to answer your question, N8ball already did. As far as setting gains with no load, that just changes the gain overlap by about 2-3db. So using the -5 track with speakers unhooked might show the system -3 instead. No big deal, its just overlap between highs and lows. The reason there is -5 all the way to -15 is so you can get your overlaps right with or without speakers hooked up. I personally unhook them because i dont want that shit screaming in my ear.

[meade916]

Steve, I have a question that I've heard a lot of debate around. I just bought a Pioneer AVH 8400BH, and was wondering if I had to turn the subwoofer level up to the max which is +6 to get the entire 4v output? What are your thoughts? Subbed to this thread for all the knowledge being dropped.

the DD-1 only needs 1.2v to pick up signal.

[GiAnT4LYFE]

Ok, that makes sense to me now as to why it took so long to pick up the 40hz tone. Makes me believe it should be at +6 then.

[meade916]

Ok, that makes sense to me now as to why it took so long to pick up the 40hz tone. Makes me believe it should be at +6 then.

set it with bass flat. Are you testing from the decks RCA out's or are you testing through the amp with gain all the way down? try that if not. Leave the bass flat though until you are done. You shouldn't ever need to go to +6.

[ALPINE408]

the 160 he was talking about was me.. i know for a fact my deck distorts at vol 24 and up so no guessing there i set it at vol 23. no guessing on the gain ether but i have been doing this a loooong time. for the avarge user the tool is awsome i just want to know if it takes into acount the things i stated above

just out of pure curiosity, i would personally like to be there when those gains were set......because 24 is a LOW number to start distorting, even for a shitty deck. (unless the deck only goes up to 25 which then i take that back LOL) We usually see that when there is a line-driver in the chain. Were you using a line driver or is that deck that dirty? Did you use the same tracks we use (0db, -5, -10 @40 hz) or similar?

Also to answer your question, N8ball already did. As far as setting gains with no load, that just changes the gain overlap by about 2-3db. So using the -5 track with speakers unhooked might show the system -3 instead. No big deal, its just overlap between highs and lows. The reason there is -5 all the way to -15 is so you can get your overlaps right with or without speakers hooked up. I personally unhook them because i dont want that shit screaming in my ear.

older alpine deck max vol. 32 distort starts at 24 been scoped and tested many times no line driver alpine decks are not dirty it was for comp and burps so a 0db tone was used

many hours of testing went into it there was no way to get a 161 out of with out adding power i had them set as prefect as they would get

Edited April 25, 2012 by Team Bassick (ALPINE)

[SnowDrifter]

Steve, I have a question that I've heard a lot of debate around. I just bought a Pioneer AVH 8400BH, and was wondering if I had to turn the subwoofer level up to the max which is +6 to get the entire 4v output? What are your thoughts? Subbed to this thread for all the knowledge being dropped.

the DD-1 only needs 1.2v to pick up signal.

Let me throw this out there that I have tested it to be effective down to .9v

[Ninja_v1.0]

Steve, I have a question that I've heard a lot of debate around. I just bought a Pioneer AVH 8400BH, and was wondering if I had to turn the subwoofer level up to the max which is +6 to get the entire 4v output? What are your thoughts? Subbed to this thread for all the knowledge being dropped.

the DD-1 only needs 1.2v to pick up signal.

Let me throw this out there that I have tested it to be effective down to .9v

how was this test achieved?

[GiAnT4LYFE]

Ok, that makes sense to me now as to why it took so long to pick up the 40hz tone. Makes me believe it should be at +6 then.

set it with bass flat. Are you testing from the decks RCA out's or are you testing through the amp with gain all the way down? try that if not. Leave the bass flat though until you are done. You shouldn't ever need to go to +6.

I'm doing it through the amp with the gains off. My bass level on the deck is at 0, but where I can set my LPF on the deck also allows me a range from -15 to +6. I know on one of the head unit threads it was suggested that with some kenwood decks in order to achieve their max output voltage had to have that maxed out. So I was wondering if that should be maxed to 6 to get my max of 4v from the deck, then set the gains.

[soundsystemaniac]

steve, you say that you are supposed to leave the eq settings to flat while tuning- until its done...i understand that, but after the system is done being tuned, the eq can be changed on the hu? i am not saying that i would necessarily boost the shit out of everything, just enough to get it to sound not-so-flat. i havent really been able to find anything on that topic.

Thanks,

Brandon

[Jessica]

I set my gains on my clarion cz201 with the sub level at 0. if i set it at max, 6 or something like that, it makes the bass sound muddy.