knubs Posted March 11, 2013 Report Share Posted March 11, 2013 I solder becaue I have a torch and shit tons of solder in different sizes and different types.. beats spending 70-80 on a crimper. ^^^^ that just practice soldering. it's a useful skill to have. just make sure the solder actually gets pulled into the wire, but don't get it too hot or it will run too far and go into the sheathing and you will have a very stiff wire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killallblue Posted March 11, 2013 Report Share Posted March 11, 2013 I will just says this there are 10 threads for this search is a nice feature on the forum and it has just been upgraded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flarobbie Posted March 11, 2013 Report Share Posted March 11, 2013 ive found that it is more secure when you solder the ends. plus it looks cleaner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowDrifter Posted March 11, 2013 Report Share Posted March 11, 2013 If both done properly, there is no difference between crimp and solder, electrically speaking. But that being said: I do find the crimp style lugs preferable to the solder style lugs. They are much beefier. Crimping is a high investment cost, but the connections are easier and faster to make. Strip the wire, stick it in the terminal, pump the lever a few times. Done Soldering is cheaper, but takes a bit of skill to learn it. And if you are doing LOTS of connections, it will take quite a bit of time too. ~~~~~~~~SAY NO TO PHOTOBUCKET~~~~~~~~ Snow's DD-1 tracks here: https://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/167433-snows-dd-1-tracks/ My take on OFC vs CCA: https://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/110381-things-that-piss-you-off-in-the-car-audio-world/?do=findComment&comment=2461444 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowDrifter Posted March 11, 2013 Report Share Posted March 11, 2013 And while I'm thinking... Stay away from acid based flux or acid core solder. IMO use solid core solder with rosin paste flux I will say this: You can solder crimp terminals, but you cannot crimp solder terminals. Crimping works by applying so much pressure to the metal that it fuses - like welding. A "cold weld" But, I've found that the brass terminals don't seem to bond too well with the copper in the wire. You'll just end up with a terminal that is squished on and held in place by friction. Wiggle it a couple times and the wire pulls right out. My crimp lugs on the other hand? I could pull a car out of a ditch with it lol Soldering crimp terminals just uses a bunch of solder. That's about all there is to it. You can find "solder pellets" to make the job easier too. ~~~~~~~~SAY NO TO PHOTOBUCKET~~~~~~~~ Snow's DD-1 tracks here: https://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/167433-snows-dd-1-tracks/ My take on OFC vs CCA: https://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/110381-things-that-piss-you-off-in-the-car-audio-world/?do=findComment&comment=2461444 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowDrifter Posted March 11, 2013 Report Share Posted March 11, 2013 Here are what crimp lugs look like. They may also be silver in color. All that means is that they are tin plated to protect against corrosion And here's a solder-type terminal ~~~~~~~~SAY NO TO PHOTOBUCKET~~~~~~~~ Snow's DD-1 tracks here: https://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/167433-snows-dd-1-tracks/ My take on OFC vs CCA: https://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/110381-things-that-piss-you-off-in-the-car-audio-world/?do=findComment&comment=2461444 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skittlesRgood Posted March 14, 2013 Report Share Posted March 14, 2013 And while I'm thinking... Stay away from acid based flux or acid core solder. IMO use solid core solder with rosin paste flux I will say this: You can solder crimp terminals, but you cannot crimp solder terminals. Crimping works by applying so much pressure to the metal that it fuses - like welding. A "cold weld" But, I've found that the brass terminals don't seem to bond too well with the copper in the wire. You'll just end up with a terminal that is squished on and held in place by friction. Wiggle it a couple times and the wire pulls right out. My crimp lugs on the other hand? I could pull a car out of a ditch with it lol Soldering crimp terminals just uses a bunch of solder. That's about all there is to it. You can find "solder pellets" to make the job easier too. really? ive crimped a lot of those solder terminals and I've never been able to pull one out. even cut one in half after I crimped it to look at it. If I answered you in a well mannered, informative way, you asked a good question or had a good attitude. If I was an asshole, you asked a stupid question or you had a fucktard attitude... or I was in a bad mood. Team BassickHU: Pioneer AVIC Z110Front: Peerless SLS 6.5", Peerless HDS 4", Rainbow tweeter - running activeAmp: JL HD600/4 and DC 4 channel (bridged to midbass)Processor: JBL MS-8Subs: 2x 12" AA MayhemsAmp: DC 3kElectrical: DC power 270xp alt. 1/0 big 4. XSpower D3400 and six D680s. http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/121795-29-update-the-buick-is-getting-a-rebuild/ Top career scores: DBdrag 151.7 MECA SQ 82.25My SOTM build Yeah. im pretty sure they dont warranty retarded people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlebuck1919 Posted March 14, 2013 Report Share Posted March 14, 2013 a friend of mine hit a tree with his car and the crimps i did (with a vice-grip) were still solid (i used the solder ones), he left the wire though because it was too much of a pain for what little the CCA cost him lol but now i know there's a place for each type i prefer the OFC crimp lugs anyways Feedback Thread: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/152368-littlebuck1919s-feedback/#entry2177586 i think you'd stick your dick in a blender if it told you it was 40 wtih two kids your age. lol 6/18/82 - 4/17/12 R.I.P. to my sister Shana Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KickerKid58 Posted March 14, 2013 Report Share Posted March 14, 2013 really? ive crimped a lot of those solder terminals and I've never been able to pull one out. even cut one in half after I crimped it to look at it. same here. Here's a piece of scrap I put a terminal on to demonstrate. first, hammer crimper I use crimped soldered and cut in half I tried pulling it out before cutting it up and it felt solid as a rock. Like I said earlier, not super pretty, but plenty functional. Nothing electrical tape and a sleeve won't cover up anyways. 06 Jeep Grand Cherokee 2 DC Level4 12" Soundstream TA1.3000d 4 RF Punch 6.5" Components 2 RF Punch 3.5" 2-ways RF Prime 400.4D XS Power XP950 +&-run of XScorpion 1/0 OFC My Civic Build Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airborne Posted March 14, 2013 Report Share Posted March 14, 2013 people have been crimping the wires they use in hydraulics for decades and they throw those cars around like a muffugger. I crimp because I have a good crimper... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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