_paralyzed_ Posted October 6, 2014 Report Share Posted October 6, 2014 It sure would be killer at the b pillar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gckless Posted October 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2014 If everything the guy is doing is right and he's certain the signal is clean why is the sub not being able to handled rated being ruled out? Seems like quite a few people have said tantric subs get hot and smelly on rated or just over rated power, which is exactly what he's experiencing but people wanna blame it on his electrical, box and music signal. I'm not trying to bash tantric here cause they're great sounding subs and seem to be in a lot of loud builds, I just feel I have enough evidence from builds I've seen to say they might not be able to handle rated power or they can but you have to be ultra conservative. I dont know you but the guys name is gckless. Quite rude and disrespectful... Next thing is that I have heard No-one speak of tantric getting hot quickly unless there is some underlying issue. They do get the tantric smell due to the coils being coated. Lastly, I as well as MANY others can attest that tantric subs do more than rated on average. I personally was running 2 shd's on 20k.... true story. tantric coils brand new before even put into the subs have a smell. its a pretty distinct smell too. so even when you play them they make that smell. its just the coil and how he has them made. they smell like shit naturally haha. but trust me even if they are smelling that doesnt mean they are hot just means they stink lol. eventually the smell works its way out after you get the coil hot and let it cool off several times. just got to work the coil that way. That's what I've been doin, letting it heat up, getting that smell, then letting it cool down. That smell really stings the nostrils lol. And I don't really smell it any more unless the coil is actually getting hot. It sure would be killer at the b pillar. I have yet to hear a B pillar I really like the sound of. They are loud, and might have the same bandwidth as a box farther away, but there's just something about them that I don't like. Wouldn't want one as a daily. Sure fun to sit in though. "Clipping" is the biggest forum boner now. It's like witchcraft... it automatically explains just about everything people don't understand. My build log: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/200295-gckless-2011-chevrolet-impala/ High resolution photos: Gilbert Kless Photography Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IH8PunkRok Posted October 6, 2014 Report Share Posted October 6, 2014 I agree with your b pillar statement. The tonality just isn't there Personally I love the way your box is. I am very serious about giving it more power. I had a dd 3512 back in the day. It had a terrible smell and it would smack the backplate from time to time, it never died. To my knowledge it is still in use. If they built a good coil it will survive -Matt2005 Dodge Magnum RTJVC KD-AVX1 2 PPI S580.2 Obsidian Audio ST1 Horn Tweeters PRV 8MB450s Audio Legion 3500.1D 2 RE MT 18s 360 ah LiFePO4 BatterySHCA 2/0 155.2 @ 29 hzKicker CVR 15's buildDD 3512e buildMini T-Line Build(6) 8s BuildNightshade 15s Wall BuildMagnum AB XFL 12s BuildNewest Magnum Build Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gckless Posted October 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2014 I agree with your b pillar statement. The tonality just isn't there Personally I love the way your box is. I am very serious about giving it more power. I had a dd 3512 back in the day. It had a terrible smell and it would smack the backplate from time to time, it never died. To my knowledge it is still in use. If they built a good coil it will survive Here's why I'm nervous: I did those clamp tests a page or so back, and it was fine on around 1800W. Then I turned the volume up, gave it about 2800W, and that's where it got warm fairly quickly. I don't have a huge amount more real power to give it after rise, but there's a little. I like this box too, but if it don't meet expectations, it's got to go. I'm mostly ok with it if I can unload it on CL. "Clipping" is the biggest forum boner now. It's like witchcraft... it automatically explains just about everything people don't understand. My build log: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/200295-gckless-2011-chevrolet-impala/ High resolution photos: Gilbert Kless Photography Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlamminBeats Posted October 6, 2014 Report Share Posted October 6, 2014 I agree with your b pillar statement. The tonality just isn't there Personally I love the way your box is. I am very serious about giving it more power. I had a dd 3512 back in the day. It had a terrible smell and it would smack the backplate from time to time, it never died. To my knowledge it is still in use. If they built a good coil it will survive Here's why I'm nervous: I did those clamp tests a page or so back, and it was fine on around 1800W. Then I turned the volume up, gave it about 2800W, and that's where it got warm fairly quickly. I don't have a huge amount more real power to give it after rise, but there's a little. I like this box too, but if it don't meet expectations, it's got to go. I'm mostly ok with it if I can unload it on CL. selling a box for a 24? that will be impossible. Better put a plug on it for an 18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_paralyzed_ Posted October 6, 2014 Report Share Posted October 6, 2014 Dude, fucking wang on that thing. $250 in this hobby is nothing if you do need a recoil, and if you're not going to wang on it then why did you get it? Run all the power you've got to it and see what she'll do. It's worth a recoil just to pull that beast apart. Your box is at the low end of specs, but within spec. You're not too close to the ceiling. Your electrical is solid. Your amp is bulletproof. If you can't wang on that sub then you got ripped off. But that's just my opinion. I like to push shit to the limits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighossf150 Posted October 6, 2014 Report Share Posted October 6, 2014 Personally I'd beat on it until it stopped smelling or it pops. Used to have a loud truck 2009 Corvette Z06, H/C/I, 150 shot, g force tune, 730rwhp/690rwtq 2013 F-150 limited, MPT Tune, leveled on 35"s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRTC360 Posted October 6, 2014 Report Share Posted October 6, 2014 Just let it play let it smell. I've seen smoke come out of people's ports and the subs still play just fine. At slamfest this year to be specific lol. '93 Firebird Formula V8 H/U- Kenwood eXcelon KDC-X395 Mids/Highs Amp- Hifonics ZXI80.4 Wiring-KNU RCA's, Speaker Wire, And Two Runs Of Trystar 1/0 G34 Red Top and a 180amp Ford Alternator www.youtube.com/TRTC360 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gckless Posted October 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2014 Seen the last replies before I went home, decided it might be worth a shot to see. So on the ride home I played full tilt (no more than 2800W to the driver, and that's clean power) for about 60-90 seconds at a time between red lights (I turn down at red lights). Probably about 5-6 minutes of full tilt time with red lights in between to let it cool. Coil stunk about 3/4 of the way home, but pushed on. By the time I got home, the dustcap was hot enough to where I could only hold my hand on it for about 15-20 seconds before it got really uncomfortable. Maybe I'm just being a vagina here, but that doesn't seem right to me. I fully believe it's my enclosure/orientation/proximity to the roof, just space constraints, why this is having problems. "Clipping" is the biggest forum boner now. It's like witchcraft... it automatically explains just about everything people don't understand. My build log: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/200295-gckless-2011-chevrolet-impala/ High resolution photos: Gilbert Kless Photography Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broke_Audio_Addict Posted October 6, 2014 Report Share Posted October 6, 2014 What does Tantric have to say about it being hot? That being said a lot of people's definition of "music" is a clipped 30 hz sine wave with some 80 IQ knuckle head grunting about committing crimes and his genitals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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