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If I'm at the volume where clipping is (set using a DD-1) and I still want to turn it up, I think it means I need more amp power and a sub to handle that power or adding another sub to achieve a certain level of loudness without clipping.

Am I right?

On certain bass heavy songs, when I'm at clipping, there is some non-musical harshness that I don't like. When I back off a tick or 2, it disappears.

I have a single DC Lvl 2 12 wired to 2ohm and a R1200.1 that is rated at 800w @ 2ohm.

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i am dealing with something like that where my subs start to distort at a certain level.... in my situation though my amp has plenty of power.... so im thinking adding another sub to get the bass level I am looking for...... my highs and mids are good and clear I just need that extra level or 2 of lows to get that balance.....

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That's how this addiction goes it's never enough.

That being said a lot of people's definition of "music" is a clipped 30 hz sine wave with some 80 IQ knuckle head grunting about committing crimes and his genitals.

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Most of us on this forum have the same problem! It's never enough! Do I need more power? YES! Do I need more subs? YES! Can I afford it? NO!

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Don't worry too much about power, for daily music listenings.

If you can properly fit a second lvl 2 12", do it !

If not, maybe a different sub would help : get a DVC2 sub, to run your amp at 1 Ohm. You can try a sub that can handle way more power, use it on 1200 w until you can run more power safely.

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Don't worry too much about power, for daily music listenings.

If you can properly fit a second lvl 2 12", do it !

If not, maybe a different sub would help : get a DVC2 sub, to run your amp at 1 Ohm. You can try a sub that can handle way more power, use it on 1200 w until you can run more power safely.

That is exactly what I'm thinking. I can do either. If I double the power (by wiring down to 1 ohm) , I'm getting a 3dB increase. What does adding a second driver do, besides more cone area...does that equate to an increase in dBs? If I do that I'll also double the power (approximately) but it would be for 2 drivers.

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Power won't really double by playing at 1 Ohm, and you'll have more output : +3db in theory !

If you double cone area : you should have another increase in output; 3 db in theory too !

Do both and you'll love it. It will be much louder, but don't expect a 6db increase. It's possible, with a good box, but not granted.

Have fun with your system :):)

black BMW X1 2.0 l 192 hp

OEM head unit, Amplifiers :  Audison AP 8.9 with integrated DSP and Ampere Audio 1200.

Focal ES 100 K in front doors, and Dayton RS 180 for midbass under the front seats.

2 SSA DEMONS 10" subs, in a sealed box. SecondSkin Damplifier on front doors, and Luxury Liner Pro for the cargo area.

 

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"Certain bass heavy songs" are probably clipped on their own. Unless you've bought the music off iTunes, another trusted music distributor of you ripped it from a CD, you can't guarantee that your music is clean. That's the problem with almost every "bass boosted" song as well, most guys just grab a song and EQ the low end all the way up without even re compressing it...In short: Shit in, Shit out.

But seriously, more power.

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If I'm at the volume where clipping is (set using a DD-1) and I still want to turn it up, I think it means I need more amp power and a sub to handle that power or adding another sub to achieve a certain level of loudness without clipping.

Am I right?

On certain bass heavy songs, when I'm at clipping, there is some non-musical harshness that I don't like. When I back off a tick or 2, it disappears.

I have a single DC Lvl 2 12 wired to 2ohm and a R1200.1 that is rated at 800w @ 2ohm.

So how is your subsonic filter set at?

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