Do SQ subwoofers exist?

[Broke_Audio_Addict]

"Audiophile grade" is just a term used to make suckers part ways with more of their money.

I'll agree that you do get what you pay for lots of times but just because something is more expensive does not mean it is better or that it will sound better, and that's a fact.

Getting what you pay for is more in reference to the bottom of the barrel shit, I strongly feel that you aren't getting what you paid for when you spend $1300 on a jl w7, or $15,000 on a high end focal components,

What you are getting at that point is ripped off.

It's nice stuff yes, but worth what it cost, well that's a matter of opinion and mine is that it's not.

[Evilthx]

"Audiophile grade" is just a term used to make suckers part ways with more of their money.

I'll agree that you do get what you pay for lots of times but just because something is more expensive does not mean it is better or that it will sound better, and that's a fact.

Getting what you pay for is more in reference to the bottom of the barrel shit, I strongly feel that you aren't getting what you paid for when you spend $1300 on a jl w7, or $15,000 on a high end focal components,

What you are getting at that point is ripped off.

It's nice stuff yes, but worth what it cost, well that's a matter of opinion and mine is that it's not.

I'll agree with you on that term... if I was selling something. I am using it in reference to the quality level of the system. Just because someone is selling an item for $1000 doesn't mean you can't get it elsewhere for $500. I wouldn't buy items at such a high cost unless I wanted to brag. When or if I use the term expensive, in my mind, $500 for a component set is expensive, maybe even excessive. If you are an Athlete or Entertainer or just have lots of disposable income then go for it. I just said quality.

The JL W7 is expensive but is a very well engineered subwoofer with lots of technology and when it was moved over to the car audio world made and continues to make a statement on quality. You can make a $1000+ dollar sub sound like $50 sub or make a $200 sub sound like a $500 sub though.

To the OP, there are many subwoofers out there. Shop around, shop smart, plan ahead, budget your system and go for it. There are some older Pioneer premier subs that I still have a soft spot for that sounded great. Like this IMPP sub

[Carnines]

"Audiophile grade" is just a term used to make suckers part ways with more of their money.

I'll agree that you do get what you pay for lots of times but just because something is more expensive does not mean it is better or that it will sound better, and that's a fact.

Getting what you pay for is more in reference to the bottom of the barrel shit, I strongly feel that you aren't getting what you paid for when you spend $1300 on a jl w7, or $15,000 on a high end focal components,

What you are getting at that point is ripped off.

It's nice stuff yes, but worth what it cost, well that's a matter of opinion and mine is that it's not.

I always thought it was more impressive to make $1000 of gear sound like $10,000 of gear

[_paralyzed_]

I don't think I've ever seen a t-line in an sq build. I'm sure that it's been done.

Saying "it must be a t-line" makes it seem like you don't know what you're talking about, because that is simply not true. Any enclosure type can be used, if used properly. Saying that is definitely misleading.

[Carnines]

I don't think I've ever seen a t-line in an sq build. I'm sure that it's been done.

Saying "it must be a t-line" makes it seem like you don't know what you're talking about, because that is simply not true. Any enclosure type can be used, if used properly. Saying that is definitely misleading.

I thought infinite baffle was popular

[_paralyzed_]

I don't think I've ever seen a t-line in an sq build. I'm sure that it's been done.

Saying "it must be a t-line" makes it seem like you don't know what you're talking about, because that is simply not true. Any enclosure type can be used, if used properly. Saying that is definitely misleading.

I thought infinite baffle was popular

I saw a lot of sealed, some infinite baffle, some aperiodic membranes, some ported.

[Krakin]

T-lines are a popular form of enclosure in systems aiming for quality, they just appear less in car audio because they are restricted so much by the car dimensions.

I didn't notice anything inherently wrong with anything he said.

There are many ways to go about the designing your sub-stage and his preference could be transmission lines.

For example I avoid anything with a port in it, because I don't like the cons as much as the pros of the designs.

[Evilthx]

Thanks Krakin. I never said it had to be a TL... it was a suggestion because they are known for superior sound. The topic is SQ subs... what good is an SQ sub without an SQ enclosure.

[_paralyzed_]

Yeah, I know what a t-line is.

Your first post reads like a list of rules, and in that list of rules it says a t-line enclosure.

Everything you wrote were great suggestions, my concern was if a noob read your first post he would think, "it has to be active, it has to be a t-line, it has to be a head unit with no internal amp, it has to be a foreign car etc..."

[MrSkippyJ]

That's actually exactly how I read it, a list of rules. First thing I thought was snafu and his 18s and cable guy with his passive set up. Plus, aren't 8s a really peaky sub and not really a good idea unless space forces you to use them? Wouldn't that make them really un-ideal (is that a word?) choice for a sq system?