Noobtastic14 Posted May 24, 2008 Report Posted May 24, 2008 3 DB is not TWICE as loud, it just requires TWICE the power/SD/or displacement (sd X xmax) 10DB is twice as loud. Glad to hear this is back on track and improvement is always AWSOME....Good work on sealing off that trunk and I bet it's suuuper Nice to have no rattles (gross). Upper 40's on music would be impressive from the trunk no doubt! Keep it up bro and get it metered asap for the official "verdict", but that's dope that it's SOUNDING like that much improvement. i was under the impression that SPL was exponential. meaning doubling sd/xmax/power can say bump you from 80db to 110db but doubling sd/xmax/power at 150db may only push you to 152. so in his case +3db may sound twice as loud. -Drew (i just used random figures i'm assuming they're ALL WRONG but thats the idea ive picked up from reading) I am a United States Military Arts and Crafts Professional. Sand it off, Paint it on. uhoh_45 said: dont be a pussy P give the jeep to drew
LSN2meBoom916 Posted May 24, 2008 Report Posted May 24, 2008 i was under the impression that SPL was exponential. meaning doubling sd/xmax/power can say bump you from 80db to 110db but doubling sd/xmax/power at 150db may only push you to 152. so in his case +3db may sound twice as loud. -Drew (i just used random figures i'm assuming they're ALL WRONG but thats the idea ive picked up from reading) I still find opposing or contradictory info about this issue...I really am still looking for a definitive answer myself but I was to understand that yes it is exponential in a way but the dB scale was a log scale..."... +3dB is perceived as twice as loud, and that increasing volume by that amount doubles the required power." "...the general rule of thumb is that people tend to call a 10X, or 10dB, increase in audio power "twice as loud", if you insist that they indicate such a point, and this is backed up by neurological studies" ~ http://www.dansdata.com/danletters169.htm "...3dB is equivalent to a doubling of power. 10dB is equivalent to ten times the power and a doubling of volume..." "Q:does this mean a speaker rated 99db is only half as loud as one at 102db? A:No. It means it would take twice the power to output the same volume. Your ears would perceive the difference as fairly small. "Twice as loud" or "half as loud" requires a difference of around 10 dB." ~ http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showthrea...ighlight=adding "An increase of +10 dB (easy to hear) is perceived as being approximately twice as loud by most people." ~ http://stereos.about.com/od/stereoscience/a/jargon1.htm I just go with the consensus...if I can find 10 sites on the subject and 6+ say it the same way, I'll buy that because I've tried the math and it is beyond me. COOGLE SAID:"bro thats how we got where we are... buy making messes ...... i still learn all the time you just gota be willing to ruck up some shit" "In order to attain the impossible, one must attempt the absurd." ~ Miguel de Unamuno"One machine can do the work of fifty ordinary men, but no machine can do the work of one extraordinary man" -Elbert Hubbard"A proud man can learn humility...but he will be proud of that too" ~I forget who.I'm far from perfect and I know it better than anyone, but I hope to be good at what I do, when I do it...Installs I've done:My Integra: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/ind...?showtopic=3161The Lexus : http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/ind...?showtopic=1535Law's Maxima: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/ind...ic=5568&hl=Jeff's 2500HD: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/ind...ic=5382&hl=Acura RSX-S: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/ind...?showtopic=3142Z-32 300zx: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/ind...?showtopic=34602004 Civic 4dr: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/ind...?showtopic=8190Trunk/Corner Box: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/ind...c=16036&hl=1969 Chevy C-10: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/ind...c=20319&hl=Seat-Back AMP-RACK How-to: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/ind...ic=9428&hl=Bunch of subs still for salehttp://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/ind...l=lsn2meboom916"It's game night...we're playin......sex."~Quagmire"When disneyland started it was powered completely by orphan children running on treadmills to generate e-lectrissty…and today, them children are New York Yankees". ~Dale Gribble"Fill it with ice...then pour it up to the top of the ice...& Shut da Fu** up!" ~Urs truly.
Rose-Villian Posted May 24, 2008 Report Posted May 24, 2008 Ide Sudjest geting Rid of those Wet Cells ASAP!!! BAD IDEA!!!!! WWW.OSGINDUSTRIES.COM I LOVE HATER'S
LSN2meBoom916 Posted May 24, 2008 Report Posted May 24, 2008 Ide Sudjest geting Rid of those Wet Cells ASAP!!! BAD IDEA!!!!! A very valid point...lead acid batts inside/under stress/abuse= no bueno.I would @ least enclose them 100% and make sure they can VENT (gaseous sulphur acid vapor) OUTside the trunk...on BMW's and VW's they use Groups 42, 47, and 49series batts and they have a vent tube leading out under the car for this reason. Acid vapor= teh suck. COOGLE SAID:"bro thats how we got where we are... buy making messes ...... i still learn all the time you just gota be willing to ruck up some shit" "In order to attain the impossible, one must attempt the absurd." ~ Miguel de Unamuno"One machine can do the work of fifty ordinary men, but no machine can do the work of one extraordinary man" -Elbert Hubbard"A proud man can learn humility...but he will be proud of that too" ~I forget who.I'm far from perfect and I know it better than anyone, but I hope to be good at what I do, when I do it...Installs I've done:My Integra: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/ind...?showtopic=3161The Lexus : http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/ind...?showtopic=1535Law's Maxima: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/ind...ic=5568&hl=Jeff's 2500HD: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/ind...ic=5382&hl=Acura RSX-S: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/ind...?showtopic=3142Z-32 300zx: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/ind...?showtopic=34602004 Civic 4dr: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/ind...?showtopic=8190Trunk/Corner Box: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/ind...c=16036&hl=1969 Chevy C-10: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/ind...c=20319&hl=Seat-Back AMP-RACK How-to: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/ind...ic=9428&hl=Bunch of subs still for salehttp://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/ind...l=lsn2meboom916"It's game night...we're playin......sex."~Quagmire"When disneyland started it was powered completely by orphan children running on treadmills to generate e-lectrissty…and today, them children are New York Yankees". ~Dale Gribble"Fill it with ice...then pour it up to the top of the ice...& Shut da Fu** up!" ~Urs truly.
flashlight_65 Posted May 24, 2008 Report Posted May 24, 2008 sweet box homie! like the wangalicious flick of the switch My builds: my caddy my 'hoe friends impala
Eric B Posted May 24, 2008 Report Posted May 24, 2008 very nice build! looks loud! 2007 Chevy HHR LT UNDER CONSTRUCTION 1st Place Loud N Low 2010 MWSPL Finals 3rd Place Xtreme 3 2010 MWSPL Finals
groundpounder2k2 Posted May 24, 2008 Report Posted May 24, 2008 rear seats are the lame!coming from the guy who..............bought a new truck,and instead of taking bolts OUT......just climbed up in there with a sawzall and choppin shit up........... My MainMan,My lil Man,Dude,Bubb....My son Memphis @ 3years OldShow'em that car son..........
Bryan Posted May 24, 2008 Report Posted May 24, 2008 holy shit chris you have a h/u now! MMM BASS OATS..ITS WHAT I HAVE FOR BREAKFAST 2 AudioQue HDC3 18'' subs Rockford Fosgate T1 6.5 mids MMATS 2000.05 XS Power D1200 Knukonceptz 1/0 Pioneer Premier DEH-P490iB " Shit I can roll a blunt better than those bitches in Havana!"- Uncle Elroy
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