J00bles Posted April 14, 2010 Report Posted April 14, 2010 Ok everybody, this is something that has been on my mind recently. i received my 18" baskets and recones from DC the other day and im really pleased with everything. the only thing that erks me is that the basket has no cooling features on it. The only benefit i see to this design is that the basket can handle the motor weight a little bit better than a basket with cooling vents built in. My motors only weigh 30 pounds, and the basket should have NO issues holding that weight horizontally in my wall. do you guys think i could cut some slits in the bottom of the basket to allow for some cross flow? i want it to look somewhat like my 12" basket (and the way it's cooling is set up) help me out, i want some opinions 8 DC Level 4 M2 15s2 DC Audio 5ks26^2 clamshell tuned to 30hz9 Kinetik 1400sMechman externally reg'd 340 S seriesin a 99 Jeep Cherokee Click to see J00bles' Youtube Channel
AI James Posted April 14, 2010 Report Posted April 14, 2010 you can but why? if it needed it then the manufacture would provide the cooling
tristan560 Posted April 14, 2010 Report Posted April 14, 2010 I thought with 6 spoke baskets you have to put spacers between the motor and basket for cooling? <u>99 Jimmy SLT 4WD</u> Systemless. <u>99 Grand Prix GTP</u> DC XL 12 on 1.5k tuned lowwwwww.
J00bles Posted April 14, 2010 Author Report Posted April 14, 2010 you can but why? if it needed it then the manufacture would provide the cooling i would just like to make sure my investments are as well protected as they can be. i dont see why they wouldnt include it in the manufacturing process, since it can be easily added. what possible benefits will i see without the cooling? i cant really name anything, myself... And tristan, some companies will do that, bit DC does not (or didnt). it would require a longer coil to make such an upgrade now, and i already purchased my recone stuff.. 8 DC Level 4 M2 15s2 DC Audio 5ks26^2 clamshell tuned to 30hz9 Kinetik 1400sMechman externally reg'd 340 S seriesin a 99 Jeep Cherokee Click to see J00bles' Youtube Channel
J00bles Posted April 14, 2010 Author Report Posted April 14, 2010 i was looking through some of my audio pictures today and remembered that my 15" basket had cooling built in as well. so companies using these cast baskets have cooling in their 10", 12", and 15" baskets, but not in their 18" baskets. doesnt make any sense to me 8 DC Level 4 M2 15s2 DC Audio 5ks26^2 clamshell tuned to 30hz9 Kinetik 1400sMechman externally reg'd 340 S seriesin a 99 Jeep Cherokee Click to see J00bles' Youtube Channel
HHR Ed Posted April 14, 2010 Report Posted April 14, 2010 You can use the motor spacer with cooling holes. But also, some motor/basket combos are designed with specific airflow in mind. For example The motor would have a pole piece vent. And the basket would have no spider plateau vents. This is to force most of the air in and out of the pole piece vent to cool the center of the motor and release the air under the spider through that vent. If you were to create vents in the area under the spider. This would allow are to flow under the spider plateau but would diminish the amount of area flowing in and out of the pole piece. So its a trade off. Some motor/basket combos cool better with spider plateau venting, some other perform better with pole piece venting. And some perform best with both, as well as cross flow cooling. Most of us manufacturers test all of this. If you are building a custom sub, then do what you think is best and log the results. Ed Lester ShowtimeSPL Host Showtime Electronics Video MarketingMy old Build Loghttp://www.stevemead...08/#entry511451http://www.youtube.com/showtimespl 5 time dB Drag Finalist Last ride 2007 HHR, current dB 153.5 and bass race 149.4 dB. 153.0 dB on music New Ride, 2008 HHR SS. Build under way. Loudest score ever = 171dB 2009 dB Drag Racing, North American Points Champion
SGTSKIP Posted April 14, 2010 Report Posted April 14, 2010 I have a cure..... Just play your music at a lower volume so it doesnt get hot.... Problem solved Does this smell funny to you? Its your sister
skittlesRgood Posted April 14, 2010 Report Posted April 14, 2010 exactly what ed said. think about a desktop computer. if you take the case off it itll overheat. well there is more space for air to get to everything but the air flow isnt doing what it needs to do. If I answered you in a well mannered, informative way, you asked a good question or had a good attitude. If I was an asshole, you asked a stupid question or you had a fucktard attitude... or I was in a bad mood. Team BassickHU: Pioneer AVIC Z110Front: Peerless SLS 6.5", Peerless HDS 4", Rainbow tweeter - running activeAmp: JL HD600/4 and DC 4 channel (bridged to midbass)Processor: JBL MS-8Subs: 2x 12" AA MayhemsAmp: DC 3kElectrical: DC power 270xp alt. 1/0 big 4. XSpower D3400 and six D680s. http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/121795-29-update-the-buick-is-getting-a-rebuild/ Top career scores: DBdrag 151.7 MECA SQ 82.25My SOTM build Yeah. im pretty sure they dont warranty retarded people.
sundownz Posted April 14, 2010 Report Posted April 14, 2010 You could also just drill some holes around the base of the frame. - Jacob Fuller - Owner, Sundown Audio - Sundown Audio on FACEBOOK - Please DO NOT PM ME -- use my email address -- [email protected]
J00bles Posted April 14, 2010 Author Report Posted April 14, 2010 You can use the motor spacer with cooling holes. But also, some motor/basket combos are designed with specific airflow in mind. For example The motor would have a pole piece vent. And the basket would have no spider plateau vents. This is to force most of the air in and out of the pole piece vent to cool the center of the motor and release the air under the spider through that vent. If you were to create vents in the area under the spider. This would allow are to flow under the spider plateau but would diminish the amount of area flowing in and out of the pole piece. So its a trade off. Some motor/basket combos cool better with spider plateau venting, some other perform better with pole piece venting. And some perform best with both, as well as cross flow cooling. Most of us manufacturers test all of this. If you are building a custom sub, then do what you think is best and log the results. thank you for the answer, Ed. I was looking for an answer like this from somebody because i was certain i was overlooking something. the level 4s have a pretty large pole vent, so i guess it would make sense that it would provide plenty of cooling. im ready to recone my woofers, but i did not want to do that until i got some answers about the baskets. but i am still a bit torn. i have one well know woofer builder telling me i shouldnt need to do it, and i have another well known woofer builder telling me to go for it. tough! 8 DC Level 4 M2 15s2 DC Audio 5ks26^2 clamshell tuned to 30hz9 Kinetik 1400sMechman externally reg'd 340 S seriesin a 99 Jeep Cherokee Click to see J00bles' Youtube Channel
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