PandorasCustoms Posted September 9, 2011 Report Share Posted September 9, 2011 couldn't you buy an insulated tube to put it in like the ones you run electricty through the ground with? I assume you could, but again, solid 1/0 practically requires a pipe bender to get it around corners. It just isn't practical to run it long distances through the interior of a car. I was trying out a spool of it in Home Depot one day as I was pretty curious about the same thing. Home Depot had it for just over $1/ft, so I was playing with on the spool. I couldn't even get it do a 90 degree bend with my hands. There was no way I was going to take the time to try and really run it through a firewall and under some carpet. could you run it in combo with the reg 0ga we use for the bends u need? edit: or would that defeat the purpose? That would start to defeat the purpose. Another thing to be looked at is that with every connection you make (soldered or not) you pick up a small amount of resistance. So, with the number of cuts and joints you would need to make you may end up building up more resistance than it would be worth. Quote Chris - "The Apprentice" - Pandora's Box Customs 1994 Ford Explorer - "Midnight" - 4.0L SOHC SoundStream PCX-1000D & Kicker S12L5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PandorasCustoms Posted September 9, 2011 Report Share Posted September 9, 2011 (edited) its all about surface area my friends I have to agree but also if its soldered. i have a question is solder bad for connections bc its not as conductive as copper right? Solder is actually helpful, in the fact that it inhibits corrosion, and it does increase surface area. If you put a "generous" amount of solder on a connection, it will get between the strands of your wire, thus actually helping reduce resistance at the connector because you will have more of a pure, solid connection. And, most solder is highly conductive. Edited September 9, 2011 by PandorasCustoms Quote Chris - "The Apprentice" - Pandora's Box Customs 1994 Ford Explorer - "Midnight" - 4.0L SOHC SoundStream PCX-1000D & Kicker S12L5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jd1102 Posted September 9, 2011 Report Share Posted September 9, 2011 couldn't you buy an insulated tube to put it in like the ones you run electricty through the ground with? I assume you could, but again, solid 1/0 practically requires a pipe bender to get it around corners. It just isn't practical to run it long distances through the interior of a car. I was trying out a spool of it in Home Depot one day as I was pretty curious about the same thing. Home Depot had it for just over $1/ft, so I was playing with on the spool. I couldn't even get it do a 90 degree bend with my hands. There was no way I was going to take the time to try and really run it through a firewall and under some carpet. could you run it in combo with the reg 0ga we use for the bends u need? edit: or would that defeat the purpose? That would start to defeat the purpose. Another thing to be looked at is that with every connection you make (soldered or not) you pick up a small amount of resistance. So, with the number of cuts and joints you would need to make you may end up building up more resistance than it would be worth. ahhh i c thx for the info one last question is solder bad for connections bc isn't it less conductive than copper? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jd1102 Posted September 9, 2011 Report Share Posted September 9, 2011 its all about surface area my friends I have to agree but also if its soldered. i have a question is solder bad for connections bc its not as conductive as copper right? Solder is actually helpful, in the fact that it inhibits corrosion, and it does increase surface area. If you put a "generous" amount of solder on a connection, it will get between the strands of your wire, thus actually helping reduce resistance at the connector because you will have more of a pure, solid connection. And, most solder is highly conductive. hmmmm very interesting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S15_Silvia Posted September 9, 2011 Report Share Posted September 9, 2011 its all about surface area my friends Try cross-sectional area. Quote 2016 Subaru BRZ | Sony XAV-AX100 | Rockford Fosgate DSM 4080 & DSM 40ix | On 6/6/2012 at 6:32 PM, 'LZTYBRN' said: 3. Don't put speakers outside the car unless you are the ice cream man. My feedback thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kam311 Posted September 9, 2011 Report Share Posted September 9, 2011 Just use audio wire haha the difference wouldn't be audible and now the convo is just getting too crazy. It's not worth the time lol Quote so far... HU- pioneer DEH-P59001B Amp- crescendo BC2000D Wire- 1/0 awg welding lead Electric- Big 3 ^same wire Subs- 2 Obsidian Audio 12 d4's Box 4ft^3 ported at 33hz. designed by Ram-Designs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superjay Posted September 9, 2011 Report Share Posted September 9, 2011 i had a question whats better whats better solid power wire or wire with more strains of wire my bro thinks solid is better he says it conducts better i said no so i want to know whats better i have all 0/1 all threw my car for power your brother is correct. Solid is better. IT's also a gigantic pain in the ass to run the wire. Since poewr in cars is DC you do not need to worry about skin effect, because there isn't any. That only comes in to play with AC, and even then only at high frequency. I'd rather run solid copper buss bars than the stranded stuff we have available to us. Quote Principal JTech Consulting - Leader in 12-Volt Training and Product PlanningIt's not about how much power you have, but how well you use it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassJunkie Posted September 9, 2011 Report Share Posted September 9, 2011 Current follows the path of least resistance. A solid copper wire is going to have less resistance than wire with strands, but it comes at a cost (money and ease of installation). Quote 1986 C20 Suburban 9 American Bass XFL 15's B2 M1MKII 14v XS Power Batteries Maxwell Caps Acoustical energy is free. Electrical energy is not you havent lived until you've hit a screw with a router. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skittlesRgood Posted September 9, 2011 Report Share Posted September 9, 2011 (edited) couldn't you buy an insulated tube to put it in like the ones you run electricty through the ground with? I assume you could, but again, solid 1/0 practically requires a pipe bender to get it around corners. It just isn't practical to run it long distances through the interior of a car. I was trying out a spool of it in Home Depot one day as I was pretty curious about the same thing. Home Depot had it for just over $1/ft, so I was playing with on the spool. I couldn't even get it do a 90 degree bend with my hands. There was no way I was going to take the time to try and really run it through a firewall and under some carpet. could you run it in combo with the reg 0ga we use for the bends u need? edit: or would that defeat the purpose? ever try to solder single strand wire? give it a try and see if every solder joint doesn't break. its all about surface area my friends I have to agree but also if its soldered. i have a question is solder bad for connections bc its not as conductive as copper right? its not as conductive, yes. but there is more surface area. i dont know exactly how the math comes out but i would bet its an even trade off. if you crimp then solder that would be beneficial because the copper makes contact then the gaps are filled with solder. Just use audio wire haha the difference wouldn't be audible and now the convo is just getting too crazy. It's not worth the time lol X2 big time. Edited September 9, 2011 by skittlesRgood Quote If I answered you in a well mannered, informative way, you asked a good question or had a good attitude. If I was an asshole, you asked a stupid question or you had a fucktard attitude... or I was in a bad mood. Team BassickHU: Pioneer AVIC Z110Front: Peerless SLS 6.5", Peerless HDS 4", Rainbow tweeter - running activeAmp: JL HD600/4 and DC 4 channel (bridged to midbass)Processor: JBL MS-8Subs: 2x 12" AA MayhemsAmp: DC 3kElectrical: DC power 270xp alt. 1/0 big 4. XSpower D3400 and six D680s. http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/121795-29-update-the-buick-is-getting-a-rebuild/ Top career scores: DBdrag 151.7 MECA SQ 82.25My SOTM build Yeah. im pretty sure they dont warranty retarded people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audio Customs Posted September 9, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2011 i had a question whats better whats better solid power wire or wire with more strains of wire my bro thinks solid is better he says it conducts better i said no so i want to know whats better i have all 0/1 all threw my car for power your brother is correct. Solid is better. IT's also a gigantic pain in the ass to run the wire. Since poewr in cars is DC you do not need to worry about skin effect, because there isn't any. That only comes in to play with AC, and even then only at high frequency. I'd rather run solid copper buss bars than the stranded stuff we have available to us. thanks for the info their is still a lot to learn thank you all for all the info Quote cone area http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/6819-cone-area-of-a-subwoofer/ 4th order band pass basic http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/126478-basics-of-a-4th-order-bandpass-enclosure/ this is Torres box calculator My GUI Box Tuning Calculator Download - Updated 8/18/2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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