JEFFYBOI Posted April 3, 2014 Report Share Posted April 3, 2014 What country is he from? American? "Toyota Camry rebuild page 21 (link)http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/183768-94-crossfire-camry-18s-walled-singer-alt-has-arrived-rebuild-starts-pg-10/page-21 PIONEER DEH-P8400BH 2 CROSSFIRE C5 1700D 2 CROSSFIRE C7 18 HOOD. NSB GROUP48 TRUNK SMS AGM400 DUAL RUNS X SCORP 1/0 OFC 275A SINGER ALT. DYNAMAT XTREME SOUNDSTREAM TA4.280 PIONEER COMPONENTS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowDrifter Posted April 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2014 But you won't get a spark unhooking the negative first. Sure, hooking it back up you might, but not unhooking it. And there are fumes sitting (in the air- is the term "sitting" your hang up?) on top of the battery. That is why you hook up jumper cables in a specific order, to avoid sparks that may ignite the fumes. You do know that lead acid batteries vent right? The leaking electrons thing is a huge WTF though... You'll get a spark regardless of what order you do anything in. The idea behind doing the negative first is that if your wrench shorts out against the frame you don't get a fireworks show Hooking up jumper cables in a specific order is to minimize the chance of the cables shorting out to each other. It has nothing to do with sparks on the battery Regarding fumes, its hydrogen gas. It is a very minute amount. Unless the battery is sitting in an enclosed area under an overcharge condition, you don't need to worry about igniting anything. Hydrogen is lighter than air, it goes up up and away. Not like gas fumes where they settle. Pop off the caps and see how much gas comes out. Its the occasional very tine bubble here and there. Not enough to pose an explosion or fire hazard ~~~~~~~~SAY NO TO PHOTOBUCKET~~~~~~~~ Snow's DD-1 tracks here: https://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/167433-snows-dd-1-tracks/ My take on OFC vs CCA: https://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/110381-things-that-piss-you-off-in-the-car-audio-world/?do=findComment&comment=2461444 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_paralyzed_ Posted April 3, 2014 Report Share Posted April 3, 2014 People have had batteries blow up on them, and it was from a spark and from gases vented from the battery. You remove the negative first because that's the direction electrons flow, from negative to positive. The wrench thing is just something that can happen if you remove the wrong cable. It is not the reason for removing the negative first. Unless you have a serious draw (you shouldn't), there should never be an arc (spark) when removing the negative terminal. There may be when hooking it up, as capacitors in attached equipment may have drained and the sudden recharging of them draws enough current that it can cause an arc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin - STAPUFT Posted April 3, 2014 Report Share Posted April 3, 2014 You know what that say: Those who can't do- teach. 12 - 12"s in the STAY PUFT 1989 Chevy Astro Build & Comment Log Un-Interrupted Build LogYouTube Channel Chevy Trailblazer 5.1 Dolby Digital DTS Install You have a beard of a mysterious sea captain. I would follow you to hell and back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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79 cutty Posted April 3, 2014 Report Share Posted April 3, 2014 Just read through this whole topic and it seems to me there are a bunch of people in here that are just hating on this guy because you have all just had your minds blown due to the electron leaking you didn't realize you had! Firm believer in letting my cars do my talking! You can't rush quality, it doesn't happen overnight. Quality takes time and dedication, but the end results more than pay for it. "Black Pearl" Build Thread http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/67183-1985-buick-regal-limited-build-log/page-1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jhunt94 Posted April 3, 2014 Report Share Posted April 3, 2014 Electron leakage. Probably the most absurd thing I've ever heard. Also just realized that SnowDrifter is the same age as I am, but has the electrical knowledge of someone who has been doing electrical work for 30 years. 2007 Ford F-150 Reg. Cab. Flareside250 Mechman AlternatorSky High Car Audio Big 3 XS Power D3400Rockford Fosgate 1/0 amp kitRockford Fosgate T1500-1bdcpRockford Fosgate T400-4DC Audio Lvl 4 12"Rockford Fosgate Punch 6.5" componentRockford Fosgate Punch 6x8Pioneer AVH-P2300DVDSMD Volt Meter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mtnbikecrazy55 Posted April 3, 2014 Report Share Posted April 3, 2014 The scary part is that you're probably being tested on this.. X2, shitty lol I hate long signatures.... ...what the fuck is wrong wiht you you fucking fuckity fuck fuck head... Mtnbikecrazy55 Feedback Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gr8handogoatness Posted April 3, 2014 Report Share Posted April 3, 2014 Electron leaks are no joke, leave them wires on overnight and bam, floorboards full of those buggersOh man I laughed for like 5 minutes at this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowDrifter Posted April 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2014 People have had batteries blow up on them, and it was from a spark and from gases vented from the battery. You remove the negative first because that's the direction electrons flow, from negative to positive. The wrench thing is just something that can happen if you remove the wrong cable. It is not the reason for removing the negative first. Unless you have a serious draw (you shouldn't), there should never be an arc (spark) when removing the negative terminal. There may be when hooking it up, as capacitors in attached equipment may have drained and the sudden recharging of them draws enough current that it can cause an arc. Since when did electron flow matter? Its the difference in potential that creates the apart, not the direction in which electrons are flowing. Show me a case of a battery blowing up. Not something you pulled from google images (anything can happen there. Battery shatters due to impact and it "exploded) Not from your friends uncle either. I always hear this story and someone "heard it somewhere" but no one can identify a case of it happening ~~~~~~~~SAY NO TO PHOTOBUCKET~~~~~~~~ Snow's DD-1 tracks here: https://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/167433-snows-dd-1-tracks/ My take on OFC vs CCA: https://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/110381-things-that-piss-you-off-in-the-car-audio-world/?do=findComment&comment=2461444 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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