IH8PunkRok Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 the issue is not with cops.. cops are like humans.. there are good cops and there are bad cops.. the issues is with the BAD cops NOT BEING HELD ACCOUNTABLE for their wrong actions AND THEY KNOW IT! This, 1 million times this. With great power comes great responsibility. Many have lost sight of this.And to the guy asking if ever I would stand up for myself, yes. I have. In fact twice I've left my job, my well being, because I was being treated unfairly. That being said I did it on their terms. Why? There is no better feeling than giving a place of work a respectful fuck you and listing them as a reference for a new job. -Matt2005 Dodge Magnum RTJVC KD-AVX1 2 PPI S580.2 Obsidian Audio ST1 Horn Tweeters PRV 8MB450s Audio Legion 3500.1D 2 RE MT 18s 360 ah LiFePO4 BatterySHCA 2/0 155.2 @ 29 hzKicker CVR 15's buildDD 3512e buildMini T-Line Build(6) 8s BuildNightshade 15s Wall BuildMagnum AB XFL 12s BuildNewest Magnum Build Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninja_v1.0 Posted December 4, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 the medical examiner ruled his death as a homicide btw Rolex When your at the top everyone is coming for you, friends, family, haters and even those who don't know you.. my advice.. KILL EM ALL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hispls Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 for the record, if you can say I can't breath 11 times, you can breath. I've said this before and I'll say it again , I'd you feel your rights are being violated, COMPLY, and then file there appropriate lawsuits. In this day and age standing up to be the Rosa Parks of your time is a sure fire easy to get yourself killed I don't know enough about this case to debate it, but you should also know that while CHOKE holds may be banned, a vascular neck restraint may be legal. They are two completely different moves and may look the same. The officer in that footage seems to be attempting a vascular but that guy is pretty big. I use the vascular restraint and can attest if done correctly is very effective. again I don't know enough of this incident to make any contributing to this case. I can although speak on what techniques are out there Rolex, filing lawsuit are not cheap especially when dealing with police officers. I can say that only because I have been there. Not everyone has the means to go against an officer of the law. It was the likes of Rosa Parks and others that we are able to have some rights now as back in the 50 and 60's. In this day and age it is a very good way to get yourself killed but how much different would that be from a few years ago when we fought just to go to the same school, drink from the same water fountain or wanted to go to the same college? In the sense of this case the choke hold is barred from the NYPD and they view that as anything that applies pressure against your windpipe. I know you are an officer and I am not saying all cops are bad but the majority that i have seen.. well that is a different case. Actually there are hoards of lawyers out there who will jump at the case to take a GOOD civil rights lawsuit because they get paid. This clown in the video has a lengthy criminal record and likely police know he has a record of not going quietly into the night. He is NOT Rosa Parks. What right is he standing up for? The right to dodge lawful taxes? The right to resist arrest? When is the last time anybody ever fast talked their way out of an encounter with police? When's the last time NOT putting your hands behind your back when told turned out well? The ONLY way you will win in a confrontation with police is in a courtroom (we can debate what chances you really have there, but it's indisputable that you're not going to win out on the corner). Right and wrong aside, reality is what it is. a few things on your comment 1) nobody said he was Rosa Parks no clue 2) You are wrong about lawyers wanting to take cases based on them getting "paid" so wrong 3) He did have a lengthy arrest record.. do you know what he was arrested for? no you dont 4) he was not supposed to be put in a choke hold. its against policy period. There were 4 cops there! Lawyers absolutely will take a case if they think they can make money off of it. It's a huge industry. I don't care what he was arrested for in the past, and it's immaterial to my point so I won't even bother researching it, the point being if you're on the shit-list of the police it's all the more reason to keep your nose clean and not give them an excuse to fuck with you. I used to get a lot of shit from the police in my town and you know what? After I quit selling drugs, hanging out with criminals, and generally acting like a shithead they figured out they were wasting their time fucking with me and moved on. I'm not debating whether or not the police were out of line there, that was way over the top. My main point is that NOBODY ever wins in those kind of confrontations vs. police ever period. It isn't "right" but it is reality. We all need to chose our battles, and chose the time and place of the ones we chose to fight. On a street corner fighting the 80IQ steroid gang is NEVER going to pan out for you... no way, no how, not now, not ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahmed Johnson Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 the issue is not with cops.. cops are like humans.. there are good cops and there are bad cops.. the issues is with the BAD cops NOT BEING HELD ACCOUNTABLE for their wrong actions AND THEY KNOW IT! I don't hate cops. I'm cool with a few because they know I'm generally a good dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JEMT8 Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 So what exactly do people want police officers to do? Politely ask the person to come with them and if they resist just give up? I hear a lot of accusations but I have yet to see any solutions to the problem of excessive force and police brutality. formerly known as Jaylor Swift Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
im45pl Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 It is strange though, that over here is Australia the meadia was reporting on Ferguson with a white cop killing an African amercian kid... this though has not been mentioned at all as far as I know. However this seem much worse (in my opinion). Just thought I would share that info to reinforce the fact the media plays a massive role, even half way around the world. But on topic I don't see the need to choke somebody like that surely there are better methods that the police have? then again maybe he should have complied. TEAM DC AUSTRALIA My_Build_Log Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROLEXrifleman Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 depending on what your wearing you might not have other means to subdue. I am plain clothes, so with me we go from hands, to knife, to gun. Rolex you sicken me. Just let me finish my pie ~ Juice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RainStryke Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 This sums it up pretty well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrionStang Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 So, is this bitch saying the police were wrong in each of the cases (photos) in the last 25 seconds of that video? Fuck off. Its been said before, if you break the law the cops are coming for you. If you resist arrest, you will not win. Care to explain your position and the use of this video, Rainstryke? SMD Super Seller My Feedback Thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
im45pl Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 depending on what your wearing you might not have other means to subdue. I am plain clothes, so with me we go from hands, to knife, to gun. Fair enough mate obviously i have no idea what equipment you have or what your training is. TEAM DC AUSTRALIA My_Build_Log Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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