truth or bias opinion

[Clownrock95]

THIS IS NOT A WHO IS LOUDER THREAD/TOPIC/QUESTION

i have a list of amps im looking at but for most of them i have heard from assorted people and websites that for one reason or another to avoid them like the plague but for most of them ive heard more good than bad ill list them below (most of these i dont think are true but im gona put anyway)

1.crescendo bc2000d

-customer service sucks

-the c1100.4 (iirc) has that buzzing problem

-very hot due to poorly cooled or being inefficient

-quality control sucks (sometime you get really good ones sometimes you sneeze in its direction it goes into protect)

2.dc audio 2.0k

-overpriced

3.ampere audio aa-2000.1

-unproven

4.sundown audio scv-2000d

-quality is shotty

for all i know some of the people i heard these from wouldnt know a tweeter from twitter if you gave them a dictonary

presonal experiences only please

[n8ball2013]

The only one I can agree wth is the crescendo stuff. I'd take either of the other three and not hesitate. It doesn't mean the crescendo amps are garbage it's just my preference. And I'd rather support rusty Jacob or Andrew any day because I know if I have a problem I'm going to get stellar service.

[scooter99]

Just my $.02.

Having owned Crescendo equipment, I think they make good gear. HOWEVER, the lack of customer service and that nervous feeling of do I push it and risk having to deal with their customer service to get something fixed was enough for me to jump ship.

DC Audio - Overpriced is a pretty objective term. I'd almost say that's a stretch. They're on the higher side of the price points yes. But if you've ever met Rusty, or ever run one of his amps, or subs for that matter, then you know you're getting the top upmost quality in gear. You know you're going to be able to get on the phone and talk with him, Will, or anyone at DC when you dial the number. They're great people and have great customer service, which is a very great thing to have in this industry. You can ask them questions and they'll give you a straight up answer.

Ampere Audio - Unproven - by whome? They're one of the hotter companies out there right now and between Andrew and Taylor they're making great strides towards high quality equipment, low prices, and their customer service is also top notch. I could text Andrew Bailey right now and get an answer within minutes. This company is growing like wild fire and part of that reason is the price points, as well as their customer service which is all backed to a top quality product. These guys are who I jumped from Crescendo to. Not only because of their customer service, but because of their price points.

TO me it was a tie between DC Audio and Ampere Audio, with customer service, and quality in products. It was the price points that were the difference for me. I did not have the budget for DC Amps. Actually I have DC Subs (XL15's) that I was planning using. These are two top quality companies and you could not go wrong with either.

I've never been much of a sundown fan, I have no particular reason for this, it's just not what I've liked. But I will say this. I'm on Facebook classifieds, I look at classifieds here, I look at classifieds in a lot of other places. Sundown, is BY FAR the most product I've seen in those classifieds. Why is that? I don't have an answer but it would make me think twice before buying them.

Anyway, those are just my $.02. I think it comes down to what you want. if you're on a budget and need good customer service as a piece of mind, then Ampere Audio is the way to go. If you're not worried about the budget and still need good customer service, then I'd steer towards DC Audio. If you don't care about customer service and are on a budget then go with Crescendo. If you are on a budget and don't care about if it's new or used and don't care about warranties, then go to the classifieds and buy Sundown. At the end of the day it's your choice, your money, noone else's. Because really all you're going to get here, is a bunch of opinions and usually they all contradict each other.

That's all I have.

"Paragraph Pete" OUT!

[audiolamb6]

i agree with scott ive owned the dc 2k and am running the ampere 2k right now both are great amps i would have gone with sundown if ampere had not popped

[tboorn]

agreed with all the posts above. DC and Ampere are awesome amp makers, sundown is right up there with them i just dont know personally, but i have friends running them and they seems to be tanks. I have no information for Crescendo, i know they make quality amps, one of the few who actually lets you wire to .5 nominal even though the ratings are at 1ohm because they know rise is a real thing and dont void warranty because of it, but ive recently heard less than stellar reviews of their customer service and it seems to be re-occurring.

[will77530]

i vote dc

[sundownz]

Sundown, is BY FAR the most product I've seen in those classifieds. Why is that? I don't have an answer but it would make me think twice before buying them.

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Probably because there are more of them out there

Sure, I'm still on the forums like I used to be... but we aren't a small "forum based" company anymore. We are putting out the same # of amps per month than we used to do per year a few years ago. Given the volume & popularity on forums & social media it shouldn't be a surprise there is a healthy used market.

[sundownz]

4.sundown audio scv-2000d

-quality is shotty

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That is an interesting statement... the SCV line is the best line we've ever made in terms of reliability. Hands down.

[Go-N-Def]

DC over priced, probably. you can be sure you will not get garbage.

[n8ball2013]

I thought the same thing Jacob. Not a word I asskciate with sundown. All the gear I've handled or seen etc has been top notch.