Boon Posted October 26, 2010 Report Posted October 26, 2010 Not hating just want to get some feedback here, but they both got 2 coils, 2 magnets and moving same cone area. ones hated like no tomorrow the other praised like gods. SMD AA has 1 'motor' driving 1 'coil' pushing 1 cone. An isobaric setup doesn't. 10.x volts fo' life!
basshead4life Posted October 26, 2010 Author Report Posted October 26, 2010 i dont get it, i havent seen any threads where the isobaric is praised like gods... and you are talking about 1 subwoofer vs 2, and they are completely different leagues.... but if you think they are even remotely similar... btw, isobaric isnt a sub... its a box... correct me if im wrong isobaric is actually the mounting position of the subs. and yes in a sense 1 sub vs 2 but also not. because 2 15's mounted facing eachother, gasket to gasket, cone to cone, you dont even need a box, 2 coils 2 magnets moving as much air as 1 15 and the SMD AA 15 2 coils 2 magnets moving 1 15 cone. so why was everyone telling me isobaric sucks ass if ist the same as an $1049 sub Team S.M.D. Maritime Car Audio- (2) 18" SSA ZCON D1 - American Bass 500.1 - 60 ft of 3/0 -480 Ah of battery - (2) stock alternators (70 +90) - Kenwood Excelon x-794, 4v preouts car audio is just a LOT more complicated than "this amp does this power" or "this sub will be this loud". its like 2 + 2 = banana. (if that confuses you then you get the point) lol
IH8PunkRok Posted October 26, 2010 Report Posted October 26, 2010 the way of loading is a push pull configuration, I understand that. its still both, a enclosure and a way of loading, but its not a sub if how the OP wrote it, makes it seem like it is a sub i agree with you on that but it is still not an enclosure isobaric can be used in virtually all box designs my thoughts on why people dislike isobaric is 1) you need to buy 2 subs 2) they face each other they must be cancelling! (sarcasm) 3) hard to understand for some, whether it be wiring or wave patterns 4) the classic example of hey i have two subs why dont i use both cones? as for the SMD part its all trickery, (idk the details of how exactly it works but if it is like isobaric loading then..) it is one sub with two motors and coils. so basically people feel they get more for their money just human brain BS -Matt2005 Dodge Magnum RTJVC KD-AVX1 2 PPI S580.2 Obsidian Audio ST1 Horn Tweeters PRV 8MB450s Audio Legion 3500.1D 2 RE MT 18s 360 ah LiFePO4 BatterySHCA 2/0 155.2 @ 29 hzKicker CVR 15's buildDD 3512e buildMini T-Line Build(6) 8s BuildNightshade 15s Wall BuildMagnum AB XFL 12s BuildNewest Magnum Build
basshead4life Posted October 26, 2010 Author Report Posted October 26, 2010 SMD AA has 1 'motor' driving 1 'coil' pushing 1 cone. An isobaric setup doesn't. i thought the SMD had 2 separate coils on the same coil former, running in separate motor gaps. 2 motors 2 coils. Team S.M.D. Maritime Car Audio- (2) 18" SSA ZCON D1 - American Bass 500.1 - 60 ft of 3/0 -480 Ah of battery - (2) stock alternators (70 +90) - Kenwood Excelon x-794, 4v preouts car audio is just a LOT more complicated than "this amp does this power" or "this sub will be this loud". its like 2 + 2 = banana. (if that confuses you then you get the point) lol
Autruche Posted October 26, 2010 Report Posted October 26, 2010 Isobaric is a form of subwoofer mounting, the goal is to create more force behind the same cone area. That is similar to how the SMD seems to be designed, having two motors stacked and 1 coil per motor, however the main difference is it is one sub, not two. But splitting the motors like that probably yields better cone control and more magnet force. One big motor may have x amount of force, but a motor with half the weight could have 2/3 that force, and two motors with 2/3 the force each linked together will yield more force. Just guessing though. Need Test Tones/Sine Waves? Click Here!My Saab 9000 build1993 Saab 9000 Aero 5spdPioneer - Zapco - Hifonics - Sundown Audio - O2 Audio - RE AudioJust Say No To Rear SpeakersJust Say No To CCA WireReal Men Drive StickHit me up on Facebook, if you want
basshead4life Posted October 26, 2010 Author Report Posted October 26, 2010 just human brain BS aint every thing lol Team S.M.D. Maritime Car Audio- (2) 18" SSA ZCON D1 - American Bass 500.1 - 60 ft of 3/0 -480 Ah of battery - (2) stock alternators (70 +90) - Kenwood Excelon x-794, 4v preouts car audio is just a LOT more complicated than "this amp does this power" or "this sub will be this loud". its like 2 + 2 = banana. (if that confuses you then you get the point) lol
bassl0va Posted October 27, 2010 Report Posted October 27, 2010 Doesn't the SMD have the coils offset in their gaps, so on the down stroke one coil will be fully in its gap while the other will be only half in. Or something like that, I think. It's to allow more linear excursion. My RE MT 18" wall build Former build, farewell beloved wall.In progress, Toyota Starlet build This forum has a massive boner for ridiculous electrical upgrades.
kirill007 Posted October 27, 2010 Report Posted October 27, 2010 Well to make things clear, The SMD doesn't utilises isobaric, or something that looks like it. EDIT: i am correct Thinking is the root of all problems... You ALWAYS get what you pay for.
NDMstang65 Posted October 27, 2010 Report Posted October 27, 2010 Way off... Read Vance's review on the sub. It has absolutely nothing to do with isobaric anything, and everything with a parabolic BL curve while controlling things with an electro-mechanical breaking system. http://caraudiomag.com/articles/ascendant-audio-smd-subwoofer-review?utm_source=newsletter101021&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=ascendant-audio-smd-subwoofer-review Authorized Ascendant Audio Dealer! Message me for information. If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough -Albert Einstein "I have a plausible excuse for not liking you. And you know why."
Ray Posted October 27, 2010 Report Posted October 27, 2010 "an electro-mechanical breaking system." And it's "braking" BTW lol.. You can over evaluate anything Nick. Love it. And I am so tired of this correct me if im wrong shit. This is an easy 1.... If you dont know, then dont say shit. The post will not make u look any cooler. KthanxBye 2008 California state record holder 157.2 Bassrace2009 California state record holder 157.0 BassraceRollin 50's 158.7db2009 King of Cali Bassrace2009 USACi score 160.5 @ 42hz
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.