BassBarbies Ford Edge Build Sundown,Shok, Project DB, Pioneer

[Socky]

I can almost guarantee that there is not 7000w clamped power going to those subs. If there were then they would blow themselves out of the box. I would be shocked if there is more than 4-5000w clamped power at the very most.

way to be a debie downer. lol. Have you tried what ray suggested? Stuff the seal section with polyfill? Also try more of a round port, see if you can do a interchangeable round ports with aeros, 4th orders require alot of testing and tuning, maybe tune a little higher for the spl port. Are you competing in iasca? If so i remember talking to the judges they have a rule is as long as you are under 25in you are golden, i ask them about the window line, and they said its just 25in.

[Chris Davis]

Sometimes I said I might not like the setup in one of mine just to give me an excuse to get my hands dirty for a new build. Its like a drug not just the odyssey for harder and louder hits but the journey of the blood sweat and tears that gets you there. I am for sure tuned into this keep up the hard work numbers will come.

[CJ18]

I can almost guarantee that there is not 7000w clamped power going to those subs. If there were then they would blow themselves out of the box. I would be shocked if there is more than 4-5000w clamped power at the very most.

way to be a debie downer. lol. Have you tried what ray suggested? Stuff the seal section with polyfill? Also try more of a round port, see if you can do a interchangeable round ports with aeros, 4th orders require alot of testing and tuning, maybe tune a little higher for the spl port. Are you competing in iasca? If so i remember talking to the judges they have a rule is as long as you are under 25in you are golden, i ask them about the window line, and they said its just 25in.

Not being a downer, just being realistic. Not sure what her final ohm load is at the amp, but with 4th order comes a decent amount of rise.

[HunterJohnson]

I can almost guarantee that there is not 7000w clamped power going to those subs. If there were then they would blow themselves out of the box. I would be shocked if there is more than 4-5000w clamped power at the very most.

way to be a debie downer. lol. Have you tried what ray suggested? Stuff the seal section with polyfill? Also try more of a round port, see if you can do a interchangeable round ports with aeros, 4th orders require alot of testing and tuning, maybe tune a little higher for the spl port. Are you competing in iasca? If so i remember talking to the judges they have a rule is as long as you are under 25in you are golden, i ask them about the window line, and they said its just 25in.

he's not being a downer there's just no way they are getting 7000watts.

edit: Ninja'd lol

[memphisBred]

I can almost guarantee that there is not 7000w clamped power going to those subs. If there were then they would blow themselves out of the box. I would be shocked if there is more than 4-5000w clamped power at the very most.

way to be a debie downer. lol. Have you tried what ray suggested? Stuff the seal section with polyfill? Also try more of a round port, see if you can do a interchangeable round ports with aeros, 4th orders require alot of testing and tuning, maybe tune a little higher for the spl port. Are you competing in iasca? If so i remember talking to the judges they have a rule is as long as you are under 25in you are golden, i ask them about the window line, and they said its just 25in.

Not being a downer, just being realistic. Not sure what her final ohm load is at the amp, but with 4th order comes a decent amount of rise.

That's false. Not much in 4th orders.

[quakecitystudio]

She's using a Sundown NS-1. She may not be putting 7000 to the subs.

Here's a user's clamp test of the amp - http://www.caraudioclassifieds.org/forum/general-car-audio-discussion-questions/116797-sundown-ns1-clamp-test-results.html

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His results:

starting voltage 14.8v

voltage drop 12.7v

wired to .5ohm rising to 1.39ohm @ 45hz

rail voltage 97.3vac

amperage 70amp

total output = 6811w

And he did "highest spl of the day was 156.1 sealed at 45hz with the 8 sa15 powered by the 1 NS1"

side note to show 8s handling 7k total power

7000watts on 8 Sundown 8s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=50WaWardmJw

[Chris Hammer]

I can almost guarantee that there is not 7000w clamped power going to those subs. If there were then they would blow themselves out of the box. I would be shocked if there is more than 4-5000w clamped power at the very most.

way to be a debie downer. lol. Have you tried what ray suggested? Stuff the seal section with polyfill? Also try more of a round port, see if you can do a interchangeable round ports with aeros, 4th orders require alot of testing and tuning, maybe tune a little higher for the spl port. Are you competing in iasca? If so i remember talking to the judges they have a rule is as long as you are under 25in you are golden, i ask them about the window line, and they said its just 25in.

Not being a downer, just being realistic. Not sure what her final ohm load is at the amp, but with 4th order comes a decent amount of rise.

That's false. Not much in 4th orders.

[quakecitystudio]

I am curious what she's giving the subs though but...

From Sundown's website - NS-1

Rated power output

----RMS power, 2 ohm linkable/dual mono 13,000W x 1CH

----RMS power, 1 ohm mono 6500W x 1CH ----RMS power, 2 ohm mono 3300W x 1CH

----RMS power, 4 ohm mono 1800W x 1CH Low pass frequency crossover 35Hz~250Hz Subsonic filter 10Hz~50Hz Bass boost @ 45Hz 0~9dB Phase shift control 0~180 degree Frequency response 10Hz~250Hz (+/- 1dB) T.H.D @ 4 ohm <0.1% Efficiency @ 4 ohm 86% Fuse rating 650A (external type fuse) Input Sensitivity 0.2V to 6V (+/- 5%) Dimensions 12.20(W) x 2.68(H) x 27.56(L) inches

[CJ18]

I can almost guarantee that there is not 7000w clamped power going to those subs. If there were then they would blow themselves out of the box. I would be shocked if there is more than 4-5000w clamped power at the very most.

way to be a debie downer. lol. Have you tried what ray suggested? Stuff the seal section with polyfill? Also try more of a round port, see if you can do a interchangeable round ports with aeros, 4th orders require alot of testing and tuning, maybe tune a little higher for the spl port. Are you competing in iasca? If so i remember talking to the judges they have a rule is as long as you are under 25in you are golden, i ask them about the window line, and they said its just 25in.

Not being a downer, just being realistic. Not sure what her final ohm load is at the amp, but with 4th order comes a decent amount of rise.

That's false. Not much in 4th orders.

So when I clamped a pair of dc 3.5ks starting at .5 ohms strapped and rising to 8 ohms in a 4th I was mis reading the meters? Show me your proof to prove me otherwise. I know that all boxes are going to act differently, but when I was talking with mike singer before I designed my 4th, he told me to expect 2-4x rise so I would be good wiring low. I will take his word over yours.

[memphisBred]

Seeing how as I'm confident you won't believe me, take a look at Ray's first comment on page 15, post 291.