noobslayer77 Posted June 16, 2014 Author Report Posted June 16, 2014 lol... good input everyone. i figured that. I just wanted to confirm. i can't tell the difference between a helicopter and a hole in the wall. 2004 Jeep Liberty Limited 2 13w7s skar 3500 cnf mids (soon) xs batteries
Krakin Posted June 16, 2014 Report Posted June 16, 2014 Sound is subjective if you make it subjective. If you have the right tools you can objectively measure it to be exactly as is recorded in the studio or any other venue. Edit: That is to say a $10K speaker is just FU money. Krakin's Home Dipole Project http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/186153-krakins-dipole-project-new-reciever-in-rockford-science/#entry2772370 Krakin, are you some sort of mad scientist? I would have replied earlier, but I was measuring the output of my amp with a yardstick . . . What you hear is not the air pressure variation in itself but what has drawn your attention in the two streams of superimposed air pressure variations at your eardrums An acoustic event has dimensions of Time, Tone, Loudness and Space Everyone learns to render the 3-dimensional localization of sound based on the individual shape of their ears, thus no formula can achieve a definite effect for every listener.
hispls Posted June 16, 2014 Report Posted June 16, 2014 I find it highly doubtful that a 1200$ 250W woofer is going to be any better than a dozen similar size 100-200$ drivers (proper install and EQ implied). In fact I strongly suspect that in the hands of someone who really knows what they're doing with adequate processing power a funky pup could be made to sound the same in that type of application. This sort of thing is designed and marketed for the type of fool that will pay 5 grand for RCA cables, or other over-priced honkey-bling and penis extensions.
TRON Posted June 16, 2014 Report Posted June 16, 2014 Its a product that is catered to a specific market of people... It's the difference between a Chevy Malibu or a Rolls Royce Phantom. Both are cars, both have wheels, both carry people around town, but there's a certain imperiousness about owing a Rolls Royce that appeals to some people. Yes, the Rolls has way better performance and quality, but the Malibu does the same basic task as it: transportation. Avalanche Alpine Type S comps Alpine Type S 10'' Alpine MPR-F300 Alpine MRX-M50 Mechamn 270 XS Power d3400s
gr8handogoatness Posted June 16, 2014 Report Posted June 16, 2014 My Toyota camry is perfectly adequate to get me from a to b comfortably. But when compared to a Bently, whole new level of comfort. In my camry I can set the cruise on 80 and make it up the hill. But i may have to down shift a couple times and I'm pushing 6000 Rpms to do it. So I cancel the cruise and allow it to go slower to make it up that hill. It makes it just fine. However I would love to have that Bently so that I wouldn't have to down shift. Everything would be better, except costs. Talking about focal utopías vs some pioneers, same story. I can get the music reproduced so that it is loud enough and I can hear the music clearly with some pioneers but the response, build quality, power handling(true not just rated) and sonic accuracy will not compare to the utopias. Plus you have to pay for the elite status of owning utopias. When you have heard a system that is good enough you can close your eyes and feel like you are in the same room as the band playing, the experience is on another level compared to a mere good ssystem. My JLs sound really good and get loud, but I have some work to do with imaging and staging. Some drivers are better at blending it all together than others. The utopias do it with little effort. My JLs may need some processing to get there.
MrSkippyJ Posted June 16, 2014 Report Posted June 16, 2014 i would be willing to take the challenge of identifying which speakers sound better. F150: Stock 2019 Harley Road Glide: Amp: TM400Xad - 4 channel 400 watt Processor: DSR1 Fairing (Front) 6.5s -MMats PA601cx Lid (Rear) 6x9s - TMS69
Krakin Posted June 16, 2014 Report Posted June 16, 2014 I think some people highly over rate some subpar equipment. Yes of course you don't need super expensive equipment, but there are some really nice drivers out there that deserve every cent you pay for. Krakin's Home Dipole Project http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/186153-krakins-dipole-project-new-reciever-in-rockford-science/#entry2772370 Krakin, are you some sort of mad scientist? I would have replied earlier, but I was measuring the output of my amp with a yardstick . . . What you hear is not the air pressure variation in itself but what has drawn your attention in the two streams of superimposed air pressure variations at your eardrums An acoustic event has dimensions of Time, Tone, Loudness and Space Everyone learns to render the 3-dimensional localization of sound based on the individual shape of their ears, thus no formula can achieve a definite effect for every listener.
DrewJones Posted June 16, 2014 Report Posted June 16, 2014 The fact that y'all are saying that the "speakers sound the same" Or "the speaker sounds......."Proves y'all don't quite get it...... The point of speakers/subs at the level is you DON'T hear the speaker. You hear the music, as it was intended to be heard. So the less you "hear the speaker" the better it is. TEAM SOUTH Bassahaulic Productions The ONLY Bright Atlantic Blue DiamondBoxx L Drew Jones Bassahaulic Productions 4 SSA ZCON 15"s 2 Sundown SCV-6000's 6 AGM G31's 161.6 @ 40Hz Outlaw 159.8 @ 36Hz Legal ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐
White Lightning Posted June 16, 2014 Report Posted June 16, 2014 The point of speakers/subs at the level is you DON'T hear the speaker. You hear the music, as it was intended to be heard. So the less you "hear the speaker" the better it is.absolutely ... Kenwood / HELIX / Linear Power (For The Love Of Music) / Brutal Sounds / OverKill Electric Co Questions About Sound Quality ?? Try Here ... Sound Quality, What does it REALLY mean ?? SMD SOTM Winner "White Lightning" 1997 GMT400 Chevy Silverado "The Green Dickle" 1994 GMT400 Chevy "Phantom Dually" Randal's 2007 Chevy Avalanche (we haven't named this one yet) Dylan's "Brutal" 17 Chevy Cruze RS Hatch
Phaeton Posted June 16, 2014 Report Posted June 16, 2014 it better handle 12k rms if im paying that much lol. 1997 subaru legacy outback Four 15's in a almost wall Rockford Fosgate t2500-1bdcp Rockford Fosgate T400-4 on tweets Rockford Fosgate T400-4 on highs Rockford Fosgate T400-2 on midrange Rockford Fosgate T400-2 on midbass Optima Yellow top batteries 270A Singer alt (working on a bracket for a second) Lots of Second Skin
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