walwalka Posted June 1, 2014 Report Share Posted June 1, 2014 damn you guys serious? paid alot of money a few years back for some college classes that included AC/DC Electronics.....sounds like I need to slap my old professor :/ Yes they are super cereal. 2010 Honda Civic LX / Deck: Kenwood DDX371 / Front Highs: Crescendo RTS-1 / Front Mids: Silver Flute 6.5's / 4 channel: DC Audio 90.4 / Sub: Fi 15in SP4v2 / Sub amp: Taramps HD 5000 / Power wire: Knukonceptz OFC 1/0 / Deadener: Audio Technix 60 mil / Batteries: XS Power D5100R / Rear bank: TBD / Alternator: Singer 240a hairpin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krakin Posted June 1, 2014 Report Share Posted June 1, 2014 damn you guys serious? paid alot of money a few years back for some college classes that included AC/DC Electronics.....sounds like I need to slap my old professor :/ Internet has some very smart people to learn about electricity. Only sometimes you have to be fluent in a couple languages. Also, make sure you find other accredited people reference them to make sure they are correct. If you took some classes you might be able to understand this link on skin effect, once again only present in AC current. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skin_effect Krakin's Home Dipole Project http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/186153-krakins-dipole-project-new-reciever-in-rockford-science/#entry2772370 Krakin, are you some sort of mad scientist? I would have replied earlier, but I was measuring the output of my amp with a yardstick . . . What you hear is not the air pressure variation in itself but what has drawn your attention in the two streams of superimposed air pressure variations at your eardrums An acoustic event has dimensions of Time, Tone, Loudness and Space Everyone learns to render the 3-dimensional localization of sound based on the individual shape of their ears, thus no formula can achieve a definite effect for every listener. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S15_Silvia Posted June 1, 2014 Report Share Posted June 1, 2014 That would make sense if it were high frequencies and AC current. But when it is DC current, the skin effect in not in use. 100% true. DC current wants a thick-ass conductor. In this case the only way of telling which is better would be to calculate exactly the cross-sectional area of each solution. That and figuring out if you want a flexible vs. inflexible wire. 2016 Subaru BRZ | Sony XAV-AX100 | Rockford Fosgate DSM 4080 & DSM 40ix | On 6/6/2012 at 6:32 PM, 'LZTYBRN' said: 3. Don't put speakers outside the car unless you are the ice cream man. My feedback thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krakin Posted June 1, 2014 Report Share Posted June 1, 2014 Circular Mills, Bitches. Krakin's Home Dipole Project http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/186153-krakins-dipole-project-new-reciever-in-rockford-science/#entry2772370 Krakin, are you some sort of mad scientist? I would have replied earlier, but I was measuring the output of my amp with a yardstick . . . What you hear is not the air pressure variation in itself but what has drawn your attention in the two streams of superimposed air pressure variations at your eardrums An acoustic event has dimensions of Time, Tone, Loudness and Space Everyone learns to render the 3-dimensional localization of sound based on the individual shape of their ears, thus no formula can achieve a definite effect for every listener. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxVolume Posted June 1, 2014 Report Share Posted June 1, 2014 Aaaand that's why I like this place; pros giving not only answers, but reasons and research to back it up. I learned something today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krakin Posted June 1, 2014 Report Share Posted June 1, 2014 Ain't no pro, only 18. Krakin's Home Dipole Project http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/186153-krakins-dipole-project-new-reciever-in-rockford-science/#entry2772370 Krakin, are you some sort of mad scientist? I would have replied earlier, but I was measuring the output of my amp with a yardstick . . . What you hear is not the air pressure variation in itself but what has drawn your attention in the two streams of superimposed air pressure variations at your eardrums An acoustic event has dimensions of Time, Tone, Loudness and Space Everyone learns to render the 3-dimensional localization of sound based on the individual shape of their ears, thus no formula can achieve a definite effect for every listener. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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AMI CUSTOMS Posted June 2, 2014 Report Share Posted June 2, 2014 1/0 wire AWG stranded conducts the same at 1/0 wire AWG solid core, 1/0 = 1/0 so more strands doesn't mean conducts more. No skin effect in DC, only AC transmission at 60 hz cycles And to the OP there are ALOT of people that use solid core SINGLE stranded wire on jumping batteries together, it is called BUSS BARS TEAM SOUNDQUBED -- TEAM SOUTH TEAM S.O.B. - Founder & Captain 3x Streetbeat World Record Holder 2017 MWSPL 1st place Mayhem & 4th Xtreme 4 2016 MWSPL 1st place Mayhem/2nd Adv 4/2nd Xtreme 4 2015 MWSPL 2nd place Mayhem & 4th Xtreme 4 2014 USACI 2nd place Streetbeat 5 - 162.6 db 2014 MWSPL 2nd place Xtreme 4 - 144.9 db 2013 USACI 1st place Streetbeat 4 - 161.9 db 2013 USACI 1st place Street Q+ - 162.8 db 2013 MWSPL 3rd Kaos2 & 4th Xtreme 4 2011 USACI 2nd place MOD 1001-2k - 160.0 db 2011 MWSPL 4th place: Adv3 - 157.8 db, Kaos2 - 150s db, Xtreme4 - 140s db 2010 ARSPL 1st place 501-750 - 160.3 db Arkansas loudest Best score to date 164.4 db - Termlab Outlaw Streetbeat 4 - 161.9 db Streetbeat 5 - 162.6 db MWSPL on Dash Legal door open (Music) - 162.5 db Sealed on dash Legal (Music) - 161.1 db - Termlab THE BLACK NASTY CURRENT BUILD & FAB The Black Nasty (6) 15 Rebuild Log 2012 (4) 15 Walled Sierra Build Log Evo X build log Facebook page The Black Nasty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBigs63' Posted June 2, 2014 Report Share Posted June 2, 2014 1/0 wire AWG stranded conducts the same at 1/0 wire AWG solid core, 1/0 = 1/0 so more strands doesn't mean conducts more. No skin effect in DC, only AC transmission at 60 hz cycles And to the OP there are ALOT of people that use solid core SINGLE stranded wire on jumping batteries together, it is called BUSS BARS Well stated sir! I was about to mention that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen13 Posted June 2, 2014 Report Share Posted June 2, 2014 Electrons which make up your electrical power don't actually flow through the wire, they flow around the outside of it. The outer surface area of the wire is what trasmits the electricity. A solid wire, even with a large gauge will transmit far less power than a similar sized wire made up of many individual strands. The higher the strand count, the better the transmission of electrons. Depending on the application, solid strand wire may work, though I can't recommend it. Having said that, a few years back I used wire from Home Depot (can't remember the name of wire) that was about 9 strands of relatively thick wire. It was ok for powering my WalMart amp but I can't recommend it for much more. Long story short: More strands, More power. This is known as "skin effect" but it only applies to AC voltage. And the higher the frequency the more skin effect that takes place. There is no skin effect for DC current flow. Edit: Spoke too soon. 2011 Chevy Silverado LT 5.3L 4x4 Ext.-cab "Enjoy yourself. It's later than you think." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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