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Yes but he isn't dead. It is second degree attempted murder.

Thanks. It goes up to third degree, correct?

First Degree = Pre-planned intentional murder

Second Degree = Unplanned intentional murder, in the heat of the moment

Third Degree = Accidental killing

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Yes but he isn't dead. It is second degree attempted murder.

Thanks. It goes up to third degree, correct?

First Degree = Pre-planned intentional murder

Second Degree = Unplanned intentional murder, in the heat of the moment

Third Degree = Accidental killing

Thanks. I assumed it was like burns.

First - minor

Second - blisters

Third - severe/Nerve loss

I was wrong then

 

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There are a lot of different situations for being pronounced dead. (Didn't watch the video, might when I get time in a bit.) But like in the video that was posted yesterday about the kid that was shot as a gang initiation. He was pronounced dead on arrival by i think the EMT, and I think the victim said he wasn't dead at the time. But was then revived by a doctor. And the kid who shot him was convicted with attempted murder not murder even though the victim had at one time been pronounced dead.

Edit: that was the video...

But I would say it should be attempted as he had not actually killed the victim.

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i think if someone shoots you, and you live when your better you should get to shoot them and if you die just give them the fucking chair,

The guy that shot me and a friend last year just Got off of all charges, Thus is why i used to take shit into my own hands when need be

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It can take a long time to get the chair though, you can wait in that cell for 30 years before you finally get it.

And the fact more than one person agrees does not make it a circle jerk, it makes it a bukkake scene and you're in the middle ;)

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I say its attempted due to the person surviving, even if they died for a short time they are still alive in the end.

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It wasn't pre-meditated so it would be 2nd degree.

How was it not pre meditated? He had to kill someone, he picked his person, planted or carried a weapon, found a location, and shot the dude 3 times at close range with a shotgun? Sounds pretty planned out to me. Not like they got into an argument and led to a shooting. He even payed for the gas to get there

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I watched the video in this thread and it got me thinking

http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/164177-most-inspirational-story-ever/

If someone is shot, assaulted, etc, and either their heart stops or they are pronounced dead BUT are brought back to life - do you think the assailant should be charged with murder or not?

Discuss

It's murder.

Murder is defined as the unlawful taking of a person's life. Meaning that if at any point the person died the person that caused that committed murder.

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It wasn't pre-meditated so it would be 2nd degree.

How was it not pre meditated? He had to kill someone, he picked his person, planted or carried a weapon, found a location, and shot the dude 3 times at close range with a shotgun? Sounds pretty planned out to me. Not like they got into an argument and led to a shooting. He even payed for the gas to get there

Read the rest of what I said. I didnt watch the whole thing...

And the fact more than one person agrees does not make it a circle jerk, it makes it a bukkake scene and you're in the middle ;)

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Should be attempted 1st degree - totally premeditated.

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