AD-1 Amplifier Dyno answers question "do caps work"

[OrionStang]

I would like to see the tests on a system running thousands of watts, a few alts, and a shitton of batts. The Tahoe.

I know its totally different than the tests with this tiny setup, but still be interesting to know exactly whats going on.

Edited April 21, 2013 by OrionStang

[justin0943]

people told me caps was bad but I had one that was 2 farad had it on the 400rms ssl amp totally different sounded and hit better with it

Placebo?

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[JMZNeal]

That is extremely interesting to see. And it would be awesome to have one of those at your disposal, and from what I've read, shops should have one to show customer's the differences they make when doing electrical upgrades, amp upgrades, ect... Bet it's expensive too. But I want one just the same.

Some one should rent one out for so much a week and ship it around like the roaming gnome and get vids, pics and tons of scientific results...

[meade916]

I would like to see the tests on a system running thousands of watts, a few alts, and a shitton of batts. The Tahoe.

I know its totally different than the tests with this tiny setup, but still be interesting to know exactly whats going on.

me too except the only problem is i have 8 amps on 8 coils and my wiring is all nice. I'm not pulling it all apart any time soon and even if i did, its just gonna give me an amp by amp reading. (nothing is strapped, not even a single pair of amps. They are all individual)

anyway, i am planning on trying the AD-1 on all sorts of things. Like Tony said, moving the cap further away from the amp was enough to change the results. Also, forget Amplifiers, don't make me do a "wire shootout"....ill take tests @ 50 ft , 10 and maybe 18" or something like that and see what brand delivers the most power. Ill even toss welding cable in the mix. The Dyno isn't just about your amp making or not making power, lots of things can be a factor Don't make me do a battery battle too if you catch my drift....do they even make those pretty blue things anymore?

[Purplehaze]

Interesting any testing with a battery?

No testing with an additional battery, but if you look at the numbers it would only help in the situations were the voltage fell below 12.6V, since another battery is just a load to the alternator over 12.6V. We have an additional group 49 AGM battery all charged up and ready for testing. May do some dyno runs on Monday.

Would like to see what the results with your primary battery and a large AGM battery like a XS 3100 ran without a capacitor. This would be a similar set up like a lot of us members would run and see what the numbers would be. Also, stock alt?

Another big battery would only help on the runs where the voltage dropped below 12.6 volts. At least, that is what I'm guessing.

These statements I find the most interesting, and would LOVE to see some experiments to really find out what's helping, and what's not. I thought (probably wrong) that adding more batteries would help strengthen the power supply, not be "just a load to the alternator over 12.6V".

But I trust what you say, it makes sense. It just seems different when setting in a ride with tons of batts. It seems like they help keep the voltage from dropping much at all.

But thank you for showing us these test! Awesome info!

I would like to see the tests on a system running thousands of watts, a few alts, and a shitton of batts. The Tahoe.

I know its totally different than the tests with this tiny setup, but still be interesting to know exactly whats going on.

me too except the only problem is i have 8 amps on 8 coils and my wiring is all nice. I'm not pulling it all apart any time soon and even if i did, its just gonna give me an amp by amp reading. (nothing is strapped, not even a single pair of amps. They are all individual)

anyway, i am planning on trying the AD-1 on all sorts of things. Like Tony said, moving the cap further away from the amp was enough to change the results. Also, forget Amplifiers, don't make me do a "wire shootout"....ill take tests @ 50 ft , 10 and maybe 18" or something like that and see what brand delivers the most power. Ill even toss welding cable in the mix. The Dyno isn't just about your amp making or not making power, lots of things can be a factor Don't make me do a battery battle too if you catch my drift....do they even make those pretty blue things anymore?

Oooohhhhhh I'm tuned in, cant wait!

[OrionStang]

I would like to see the tests on a system running thousands of watts, a few alts, and a shitton of batts. The Tahoe.

I know its totally different than the tests with this tiny setup, but still be interesting to know exactly whats going on.

me too except the only problem is i have 8 amps on 8 coils and my wiring is all nice. I'm not pulling it all apart any time soon and even if i did, its just gonna give me an amp by amp reading. (nothing is strapped, not even a single pair of amps. They are all individual)

anyway, i am planning on trying the AD-1 on all sorts of things. Like Tony said, moving the cap further away from the amp was enough to change the results. Also, forget Amplifiers, don't make me do a "wire shootout"....ill take tests @ 50 ft , 10 and maybe 18" or something like that and see what brand delivers the most power. Ill even toss welding cable in the mix. The Dyno isn't just about your amp making or not making power, lots of things can be a factor Don't make me do a battery battle too if you catch my drift....do they even make those pretty blue things anymore?

That was kind of a of derp statement by me I guess. Didn't think about the multiple amp thing, clamping one at a time.

So maybe then, A setup with alts and batts and a single big amp, like an AB1100 or something.

I know lots of stuff factors in, just curious about the caps on a more powerful setup.

[CortezDTV]

I would like to see the tests on a system running thousands of watts, a few alts, and a shitton of batts. The Tahoe.

I know its totally different than the tests with this tiny setup, but still be interesting to know exactly whats going on.

me too except the only problem is i have 8 amps on 8 coils and my wiring is all nice. I'm not pulling it all apart any time soon and even if i did, its just gonna give me an amp by amp reading. (nothing is strapped, not even a single pair of amps. They are all individual)

anyway, i am planning on trying the AD-1 on all sorts of things. Like Tony said, moving the cap further away from the amp was enough to change the results. Also, forget Amplifiers, don't make me do a "wire shootout"....ill take tests @ 50 ft , 10 and maybe 18" or something like that and see what brand delivers the most power. Ill even toss welding cable in the mix. The Dyno isn't just about your amp making or not making power, lots of things can be a factor Don't make me do a battery battle too if you catch my drift....do they even make those pretty blue things anymore?

That was kind of a of derp statement by me I guess. Didn't think about the multiple amp thing, clamping one at a time.

So maybe then, A setup with alts and batts and a single big amp, like an AB1100 or something.

I know lots of stuff factors in, just curious about the caps on a more powerful setup.

Rays setup (dc98hoe)

It's 2 amps but he has caps real caps (I beleive it's 2 banks of maxwells now)

It would be interesting to see how much power he's clamping with and without them

[snafu]

That was kind of a of derp statement by me I guess. Didn't think about the multiple amp thing, clamping one at a time.

Did someone just use the word "clamping" in the D'Amore engineering forum?

[OrionStang]

I think it was Steve LOL.

EDIT: It was me, he used the word "reading" for each amp. LMAO

Edited April 21, 2013 by OrionStang

[alaskanzx5]

I think what would be interesting is getting a small extra batt that holds around the same as a 1 farad batt and do a side by side test of that. then do the same with a big batt and a 100 farad cap.

then do a test with the small batt and 1 farad cap hooked up at the same time and the 100 farad cap and big batt hooked up at the same time to see how they work together.

Edited April 27, 2013 by alaskanzx5