TaylorFade Posted September 13, 2014 Report Share Posted September 13, 2014 I know you guys like to see huge draws and gear beat to death, but I decided to keep things sane in this one. A 2k amp and a single group 31 is pretty "real world". And if you take the alternator into account, so are these amperage draws.The video explains a lot, but it's long. As in, 11:22 long. I apologize for the length, but there was no way to do it with any less video, really. But for those that don't want to watch an 11 minute video, I'll just list the results below.In case you're wondering why I only charged the caps to 12.6, it was suggested that I only charge them to the batteries' resting voltage to answer the question, "are caps really louder than batts?". The results may surprise you.Contestants...Full video... The vid also explains the method, but in case you don't watch it...Did three back to back to back burps with a little rebound time in between, just like in the Group 31 roundup, but this time I didn't have a charger on them. (2) Tantric HD 12's in my truck. 30hz. Amperage draw on the burps was ~ 120A.Also did a 30 second music run with a charger running. Charger was set to 40A, but clamped around 20A for the batts. 30A for the caps. The larger draw for the caps is also a small scale illustration of the added stress that caps *may* put on your alternator.Results...JuiceBox Banana- 148.7- 148.6- 148.6(with charger. single burp) - 149.0NSB AGM-31- 148.8- 148.8- 148.8(with charger. single burp) - 149.1Caps (one bank of six blue. 12.6 starting voltage)- 148.7- 148.4- 148.1(with charger. 3 burps in a row)- 149.6- 149.6- 149.630 second music runsJuiceBox - 147.1NSB - 147.1Caps - 147.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyblack76 Posted September 13, 2014 Report Share Posted September 13, 2014 NICE man....... SMD SUPER SELLER The Burban Build Blazer Build sold Acura trunk build sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knowledge Posted September 13, 2014 Report Share Posted September 13, 2014 tfade great video seen it earlier. REFF'SMy linkEBAYhttp://feedback.ebay...ck&myworld=trueI love car audio so much because I will never be done. I can never win, and I will never get it finished or perfect. It always has me coming back for more, I can never get my fill of it, but I get what I need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyblack76 Posted September 13, 2014 Report Share Posted September 13, 2014 But i have a question or 5. When does the CAP bank work (id guess if you can SUPPLY said bank, VS a reserve) or just toting a bat bank..??? Bro FADE? Could you, please explain more? (if you know what i mean,..... im also sorry for the messages while you where working....... i give no fucks at times) SMD SUPER SELLER The Burban Build Blazer Build sold Acura trunk build sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarball Posted September 13, 2014 Report Share Posted September 13, 2014 Would be interested to see the results on double the cap bank. CURRENT SYSTEM: Alternator: Stock alt on mids/highs Isolated DC Power 270 SP - Charging @ 16.8v Batteries: (2) XS D1400s Power Cable: Double Runs of 1/0 KNU Kolossus Fleks Headunit: 80-PRS Sub Amp: DC 5.0k Subwoofers: 2 RE MT 15s /PSI dual .7ohm recones Subwoofer Enclosure: 9.1cubes @ 32hz - brutal. Mids & Highs Amp: CT125.4 Active Components: Mids RE XXX 6.5c Highs - 3 RE XXX tweeters per side(A pillar) Noise Control: Damplifier Pro all over the cab. Build Log If you do business with me please leave feedback here: FEEDBACK THREAD Highest Legal Score: 151.0 db Highest Musical 30 Second Average: 151.6 db Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karkov Posted September 13, 2014 Report Share Posted September 13, 2014 Thanks for another great demonstration! Always look forward to your posts/threads 2007 Chevy Tahoe (SOLD) 12 ~ FI Audio X series 10" w/BP option 2 ~ DC Audio 5.0K @0.67 3 ~ DC Audio 5.0K @1.0 2 ~ PPI 3 way sets (not installed yet) 1 ~ RF T400-4, 1 ~ RF T600-2, 1 ~ RF T600-4 4 ~ CT Sounds 5.25" Strato comps (rear fill only) 1 ~ XS Power D4800 1 ~ XS Power D3400 8 ~ XS Power XP3000 160 stock alt, Mechman 370 Elite, 185 DC Power 320+ Sq. Ft. Sound Deadener Pioneer AVH-X5500BHS Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/user/knfjdkghjudfhsgkjdhf/videos?sort=dd&view=0&shelf_id=0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gckless Posted September 13, 2014 Report Share Posted September 13, 2014 As mentioned elsewhere I'd be really interested to see a test between two cap banks, a cap bank and a battery, and two batteries on that 2k. I'm interested in the music runs, but I know you'd do burps as well "Clipping" is the biggest forum boner now. It's like witchcraft... it automatically explains just about everything people don't understand. My build log: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/200295-gckless-2011-chevrolet-impala/ High resolution photos: Gilbert Kless Photography Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alaskanzx5 Posted September 13, 2014 Report Share Posted September 13, 2014 Post prices for the 2 different batts and for the cap bank. Puts it in perspective of cost vs benefit. t1500bdcp 2 t2d4 15" 1 t600.4 1 t400.2 1 set p1 tweets singer alt, tons of wiring, smd vm-1, 80prs, back seat delete, still in the works, aiming for a 145-147 with the ability to play 25hz up to 50hz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamHT Posted September 13, 2014 Report Share Posted September 13, 2014 I saw the title and said to myself, this is a Taylor thread. Yep, lol. Tell me...does this smell like chloroform to you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorFade Posted September 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2014 Post prices for the 2 different batts and for the cap bank. Puts it in perspective of cost vs benefit. NSB - $360-380 shipped (Google shopping) Juicebox - $350 shipped or $320 + ship (whichever is cheaper) Caps... that's a crap shoot. If you buy new, they're like $60+ each cell new depending on where you shop. Can be had for much less used. Also, the black ones that are similar capacity are cheaper. Used they're maybe $250 a dozen. So, 20 bucks each. Used isn't much of a concern either since they have a million cycle lifespan. But just for reference and path of least resistance... if you were to Google shop http://www.ebay.com/itm/6X-3000F-2-7V-Maxwell-ultracapacitor-super-farad-capacitor-booster-cap-BCAP3000-/251472523845?_trksid=p2054897.l5658 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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