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As I mentioned... I don't use the DD-1... ... but I beat the shit out of my AMM-1!!

Have seen other threads like this on here. Have read through all of them too. In the end. I have and use my DD-1 (and CC-1).

Fuck both of those. If I turn my gain and bass boost up on my boss amp its gonna tell me I'm doing it wrong. Clipping equals SPL and SPL gets the bitches.

looks more like you beat the shit out of your electrical

I heard some of the prices first hand for the parts and they are expensive. BIG BIG checks to cover orders or parts alone. Not including the ruff $10,000+ per patent per device... Now remember that this isnt being made overseas, the boards are all produced here, assembled here in AZ. Each unit made is vigorously tested here by 1 of 2 sometimes 3 people.

your a pretty cool guy steve and i really respect you for sticking up for your product through everything and even more so for stating that as long as you use an O-scope right thats okay too. im come to this forum almost every day ( usually very multiple times a day) and learn something new every time i get on hear thanks to you, Tony, and Guys like Taylorfade. its almost like my little go to for any questions site. and the products are amazing as well too. just got an OM-1 and its awesome just waiting on some plexi for a nice little install. but back to the main topic, thank you for everything youve done in the car audio world as well with everything else such as things like the awesome ALS ice bucket/bag challenge you participated in. you are an awesome dude and someone i would love to meet one day, sadly im all the way in georgia and californias quite a drive from here.

i know bro. Mine wasn't directed at you either. i respect your viewpoints and the work you do. No probs here bro. I also got no prob with people that like O-scopes better.....as long as they actually use them right LOL

I'm not a hater. I appreciate the fact that it brought proper gain setting into the "mainstream" and promotes a better understanding of one's system. I just happen to use a scope. I may not even be using it right. I dunno. I hook it up and see waves and shit. I didn't mean to insinuate that clipped is *always* louder. When I'm doing SPL testing... I don't even use my scope. I just turn it up until I stop gaining. Similar to the way I don't "tune" my SPL boxes. But I'm obviously in the minority there and I don't advocate that practice.

the DD-1, like it or hate it, has brought setting gains PROPERLY to everyone's attention. It's funny how all the O-scope experts came out of the bushes once the DD-1 was released though.......when before you never saw anyone except trained installers for high end shops using them. 1 in 100 shops if i had to guess. Which brings me to my next comment. To NOT believe in the DD-1 is to NOT believe in an O-scope. But the DD-1 is better because it is easy to use, more portable, easy to understand, and faster. Also the price vs. accuracy. Sure you can get a hand held scope for about the price of a DD-1.....but have you seen the resolution on those screens? Only expensive units have resolution that can get close to the DD-1. In other words what looks like a nice clean wave on that crappy screen really might not be. The DD-1 knows what is clean and what isn't.....and is on par with O-scopes worth 10's of thousands of dollars not just the $99 special online. Even my $400 TPI 440 scope cant touch the DD-1. The resolution is just not there. Also, half the people that have a scope aren't even using it right. For example someone a lot of you guys love even posted up a video on how to set gains with a O-scope and did it completely wrong. Everyone was like "wow, nice job" when it was a bunch of crap. My point is just because they claim to like a scope better and are against the DD-1 for whatever reason, that don't mean they are even using it right. At least learn the tool before you make your judgment. And most that use the O-scope correctly have no reason other than my name NOT to like the product. Now don't get me started on the DD-1 PLUS. O-scopes can't read your overlaps before you start a tune up.......the same ones you record in your notes when sending a customer home, so you can see if the gains have changed since it was set up. also, i might add, i have seen people gain DB from turning the gains DOWN to their correct position....so extra hard clipping doesn't always make extra DB. regardless....scope or DD-1 lover, a REAL shop should use one or the other because if done properly it really saves a lot of equipment and SOUNDS BETTER.

Being on the safe side is where I'd like to be though personally. I don't compete though so getting every last watt out of an amp doesn't matter to me.

300x4 is legit for any 4 channel

i use the DD-1 and it definitely made my system better sounding. i have never used an oscope to say the same. im sure it works since its the tool that has been used for a long time and Steve even has said he don't care if we don't use the DD-1 to tune amps just use the right tools

That's pretty impressive kudos to sonic for having a pretty stout house brand

I know this is the SMD forum and this won't be a popular opinion, but... A scope is a better tool. And can be had cheaper. BUT... you're paying for the convenience. It's a couple wires and a light (to operate). I personally don't think a scope is any more difficult to use than a DD-1, but I suppose I'm in the minority. You hit the nail on the head though when you said, "It measures distortion... not all distortion is clipping." Think about your own statement for a sec.

The Amp Dyno doesn't lie

I set gains for a guy, he lost output and turned the gain up the next day. Lmao

who cares.... they can do them... ill do me..... last thing im gonna worry about is what others do... i know what im doing..