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It's alright everyone. He is a vendor and the rules don't apply to him.

1) the thread was posted revolving around a comparison to another brand, that's a Vs. thread and a no no 2) It is stated that the test was done exactly like the other, Not true, many differences so this is not a mirror image of the test with just a different amp. 3) Comparison testing that is accurate?, Only when your variables are the same for both tests. That's the accurate way to test two products then compare them against each other. 4) that last line, not needed. That must have been your inside voice on the outside. And how can you be happy with your product when comparing it to another that was electrically starved to death? That would be like Dwayne Johnson saying he was happy with his performance against an Ethiopian.

I like how hes trying to make his product look better than a company he is blatantly and constantly ripping off designs and prototypes from.

The way I took that post was look at my amp doing more power than this other companies amp. That IS a VS no matter how you put it. Show what your product will do and let the public decide what they want to buy.

I am curious, what is your take on this test and comparison Steve? Why is it okay for a vendor to compare his product against another company, but if one of us do it, thread gets locked down and closed/ deleted.

Been working on this guy for a while now... what I hope to be final prototypes just arrived a few days back. Based on our testing I am going with a 750 RMS rating on these. I won't say people will not be able to run more... but that is our official rating. They will cost $210 from an authorized dealer. Production models will, of course, have a gasket and magnet boot. ----- * Compared with SA-8 v.2 * Compared with SA-8 v.2 * Compared with X-6.5SW * Compared with X-6.5SW

That is what you call a "double standard". I've mentioned it many times in the "things that piss you off" and "fuck that" threads. Goes ignored, as expected.

the test i did with the Sundown amp was on one single D1400 battery. I had just gotten my AD-1 and was messing around with it. I wish i would have waited until i had a bigger bank before i did the test. Oh well. One day ill run it again, in all modes, and just post pics, mainly because i don't wanna do another youtube video on the same amp. Ill post results.

Derp derp

That's .5 reactive Need to wire to a quarter ohm for that lol More like .1 lol! But at least someone gets it Needs moar testing. Till then smh

And if you value any respect, DO NOT DELETE THIS THREAD!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVWUmDYIuM4 Watch in HD...also subscribe please!!! DC FTW!!

He is saying his is better, even though the power supply used is obviously different. I don't know, Kevin should probably just lay low for a minute and live off the nuthuggers.

well its a comparison, not a vs thread. i dont see kevin being a problem, just the group of people who feel obligated to trash everything he does. comparisons are no big deal, almost everyone does it. go buy anything at a dollar store that carries the brand name of the store and it will say "compare to" such and such brand. its only a big deal because yall are making it a big deal.

yet, if it fell short by 150-300 watts most of you would be right on top of that.welcome to SMD. no, welcome to any and all forums.

the biggest issue I have hear is.... drum roll.......... you didn't run the same test with the Sundown... secondly.... your products don't compare to Sundown with respect to designing and implementation ... they are leagues ahead of you Kevin ... but nice numbers on your product, comparisons aren't needed ... it devalues your own product in doing so....

are you guys ready? oh, there is a TON of numbers so if i can get a hand finding out who the winners are, i would HIGHLY appreciate that! The video is processing now and results in about 5 minutes or less. thanks for playing! hit the "like" button if you like these little games, because to me, it is a blast - i hope you all agree

I can't believe it has been 7 years and not showing any signs of slowing down! Happy Anniversary to US! Lets play a game. I want to see how many originals, or even just '06ers we have still currently posting. Believe it or not, i am member #4, people were already signing up before we announced it LOL. June 2nd is the day we started but June 6th is when i actually cracked the Champaign bottle on the side of the ship Shot's out to Dave Cope for helping me launch my ship! I know it doesn't seem that great, it's just a website, but 7 years is a LONG time. To put it in perspective, my daughter was 13. She is now grown up with a son and i am a grandfather now. My oldest son, was 9. He now DRIVES me around town, and is a senior in High School. My youngest son, he was 6 and now he is about to be in High School this year. I have had pets come and go . I have had members die, i have seen members lie. Ive seen members be REALER THEN REAL and some i trusted, try to steal....and never heard from again. I can go on and on! Feel free to post up whatever memories you have, i will PROBABLY remember them too! Some of us been FRIENDS for years and i never seen your face in person. That's ok though! thanks to everyone for a GREAT 7 years and here's to 7 more. THANK YOU.

Ohhhhh mannnn do these beasts play LOWWWWW just got my box tuned to 30ish 28ish and it playyysssssss

A bit more SPL than the SA-8 v.2 line -- they do NOT lack bottom-end, though

I will as soon as I get home

You know my number if you want a pair of 6s to play with

probable has ebay alternators

well its a comparison, not a vs thread. i dont see kevin being a problem, just the group of people who feel obligated to trash everything he does. comparisons are no big deal, almost everyone does it. go buy anything at a dollar store that carries the brand name of the store and it will say "compare to" such and such brand. its only a big deal because yall are making it a big deal. And here I thought all the other vs threads were comparisons. Y'know, comparing equipment. At the same time I wouldn't like to see this locked, like to see how it plays out. picture this if you will... someone makes a thread that says what score they achieved with a piece of equipment. they also say what scores were achieved with another piece of equipment, then they leave it be. there is no big mystery, no asking of what is better. just simply comparing results. someone else makes a thread and lists two pieces of equipment and asks which one is better, or asks for pro's and con's of each item. that is what we call a vs thread. but its like racing a stock mustang against a pro street drag mustang.... same cars, 2 different power plants

Yeah but this is backed by numbers is what huge erection is saying and not just opinions like most other vs threads

well its a comparison, not a vs thread. i dont see kevin being a problem, just the group of people who feel obligated to trash everything he does. comparisons are no big deal, almost everyone does it. go buy anything at a dollar store that carries the brand name of the store and it will say "compare to" such and such brand. its only a big deal because yall are making it a big deal. And here I thought all the other vs threads were comparisons. Y'know, comparing equipment. At the same time I wouldn't like to see this locked, like to see how it plays out.

yet, if it fell short by 150-300 watts most of you would be right on top of that. welcome to SMD.Welcome to every forum ever.EDIT- Ninja'd by the man himself

yet, if it fell short by 150-300 watts most of you would be right on top of that.

im not going to be a dick but i have owned both of these amps. Not going to say which one i still have but im sure you can figure it out

I knew something was up with the sundown numbers. And the recone thing is right...if you get a vvx recone look at the triple joint..says sundown on it lol. Very distasteful Skar...way to promote your company by putting another down with some false or biased information....

That's .5 reactive Need to wire to a quarter ohm for that lol

Left sub has 2 broken spokes and a section is completely broken off thanks to Fedex. Rusty took care of a new basket and cone for me, but I was waiting to blow it before fixing it, but the bitch won't die haha

Please please test a 4500.1 . Amps looks mean and tight 'sir sKaR audio.'. MasterWill is killing it with his.

thanks for doing a legit test this time

Them Level 6 18 are FUCKIN SICK...I love mine. Would DEF give them more power than a 3.5 though.

No. 3 7500s minimum

Well of course it wouldnt when you dont have to pay for the amps

do it man. just convert.